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#6939343 - 10/30/17 10:51 AM Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision.
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Being an older guy who still wears eyeglasses to correct for nearsightedness, I find it difficult to focus on the front site. However, my near vision is so good that I don't require reading glasses and my nearsightedness is not so bad that I can't easily see a deer at 100 yards or more.

So my question for those with 20-20 vision is this? When you use open sights on a distant target, do you lose focus on the distant target when focusing on the gun sights? It's been decades since my vision was 20-20 and I honestly can't remember if distant objects stayed in focus when my eyes were focused on near objects.

If my vision today is such that distant objects are no less in focus when aiming with open sights than when I was much younger, I might just as well remove my eyeglasses when making open sight shots today.
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#6939462 - 10/30/17 12:02 PM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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I wish I could remember what it was like to have great vision, but...

I think most would tell you the target gets at least a bit blurry.

In theory, this would be exaggerated in dim light, but in very bright light, your pupil closing up to minimum should increase your visual depth of field and minimize the blurriness of the target. Relatively speaking, of course.
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#6939532 - 10/30/17 12:37 PM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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I go back and forth but end up focusing on the sights at the last second. I think? nidea
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#6939541 - 10/30/17 12:42 PM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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Both eyes open.....left eye with contact to correct nearsightedness focuses on the target.....right eye (nearsighted) focuses on the front sight....works for me.......rifle, shotgun, or pistol....
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#6939545 - 10/30/17 12:45 PM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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I'm a shotgun shooter, focus on the target, sights are in peripheral. I apply this to handgun and rifle as well, but I'm a rarity. The British style double rifles, single shots, and bolt guns I build are all very intuitively pointable just like a proper fitting shotgun.


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#6939578 - 10/30/17 01:13 PM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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I've always found it impossible to focus on both the front sight and the target at the same time. An aperture sight helps to put things a little closer in focus for me. I was taught that your sharp focus should be on the front sight and the target should be slightly out of focus at the moment you squeeze the trigger. If you are using an aperture rear sight, you can completely ignore the rear sight.
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#6939603 - 10/30/17 01:38 PM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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If the deer is at 100 yards, I'll quickly focus on both the deer and the front sight. The front sight is the most important part of the aiming, and the deer would be in the back ground. But when I am shooting my Win lever gun in 22 LR, I'll focus on the target, and let the front sight be in my peripheral vision. I'll sometimes do this also when shooting a lever gun at further distances, and go back and forth. I have 20/20 vision, with no corrective lenses.
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#6940008 - 10/30/17 06:43 PM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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I use a peep/aperture on my Marlin 1894 357. Shooting open sights with this setup is pretty easy. I was hitting a 12" steel plate at 100 yards off hand and I'm not a great shot.

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#6940018 - 10/30/17 06:51 PM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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Bifocals, have to have scope. Lucky to see 25 yards without glasses

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#6940356 - 10/30/17 11:51 PM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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Thanks for all the replies.
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#6940360 - 10/31/17 12:00 AM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Being an older guy who still wears eyeglasses to correct for nearsightedness, I find it difficult to focus on the front site. However, my near vision is so good that I don't require reading glasses and my nearsightedness is not so bad that I can't easily see a deer at 100 yards or more.

So my question for those with 20-20 vision is this? When you use open sights on a distant target, do you lose focus on the distant target when focusing on the gun sights? It's been decades since my vision was 20-20 and I honestly can't remember if distant objects stayed in focus when my eyes were focused on near objects.

If my vision today is such that distant objects are no less in focus when aiming with open sights than when I was much younger, I might just as well remove my eyeglasses when making open sight shots today.


You're supposed to only focus on the front site; which means everything else will be blurry.

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#6940874 - 10/31/17 11:38 AM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: tenyearsgone]
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Originally Posted By: tenyearsgone
Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Being an older guy who still wears eyeglasses to correct for nearsightedness, I find it difficult to focus on the front site. However, my near vision is so good that I don't require reading glasses and my nearsightedness is not so bad that I can't easily see a deer at 100 yards or more.

So my question for those with 20-20 vision is this? When you use open sights on a distant target, do you lose focus on the distant target when focusing on the gun sights? It's been decades since my vision was 20-20 and I honestly can't remember if distant objects stayed in focus when my eyes were focused on near objects.

If my vision today is such that distant objects are no less in focus when aiming with open sights than when I was much younger, I might just as well remove my eyeglasses when making open sight shots today.


You're supposed to only focus on the front site; which means everything else will be blurry.


Exactly... you can't focus on two different objects at two different distances. The human eye does not work that way.

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#6941816 - 11/01/17 07:22 AM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: tenyearsgone]
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Originally Posted By: tenyearsgone
Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Being an older guy who still wears eyeglasses to correct for nearsightedness, I find it difficult to focus on the front site. However, my near vision is so good that I don't require reading glasses and my nearsightedness is not so bad that I can't easily see a deer at 100 yards or more.

So my question for those with 20-20 vision is this? When you use open sights on a distant target, do you lose focus on the distant target when focusing on the gun sights? It's been decades since my vision was 20-20 and I honestly can't remember if distant objects stayed in focus when my eyes were focused on near objects.

If my vision today is such that distant objects are no less in focus when aiming with open sights than when I was much younger, I might just as well remove my eyeglasses when making open sight shots today.


You're supposed to only focus on the front site; which means everything else will be blurry.


My sight is such that with the naked eye focusing on the front sight, distant objects are no more blurry than how they appear when I wear corrective lenses. In fact, they may actually look a little more clear, perhaps looking just as they would when focusing on the front sight if my vision were 20/20.
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#6941897 - 11/01/17 08:29 AM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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At one time I had better than 20/20 vision and can honestly say that in my teens through mid twenties I could shoot iron sights better than a scope.

As for the sight picture when shooting I found that the quality of the iron sights made all the difference in the world and most rifles are not factory equipped with quality open sights.....

But when shooting open sights with a rifle I always "look through" the rear sight meaning its kept blurry and simply for alignment of the front sight which is kept in clear focus and when hunting I aim at the animal by keeping the front sight focused and using it to draw a line through the target area if that makes sense.

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#6944309 - 11/02/17 07:19 PM Re: Open sights question for those with 20/20 vision. [Re: Texas Dan]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Originally Posted By: tenyearsgone
Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Being an older guy who still wears eyeglasses to correct for nearsightedness, I find it difficult to focus on the front site. However, my near vision is so good that I don't require reading glasses and my nearsightedness is not so bad that I can't easily see a deer at 100 yards or more.

So my question for those with 20-20 vision is this? When you use open sights on a distant target, do you lose focus on the distant target when focusing on the gun sights? It's been decades since my vision was 20-20 and I honestly can't remember if distant objects stayed in focus when my eyes were focused on near objects.

If my vision today is such that distant objects are no less in focus when aiming with open sights than when I was much younger, I might just as well remove my eyeglasses when making open sight shots today.


You're supposed to only focus on the front site; which means everything else will be blurry.


My sight is such that with the naked eye focusing on the front sight, distant objects are no more blurry than how they appear when I wear corrective lenses. In fact, they may actually look a little more clear, perhaps looking just as they would when focusing on the front sight if my vision were 20/20.


You really aren't at a disadvantage if you can still focus on the front. My wife has had to have cornea transplants due to genetic issues, and still can't see well in certain conditions. She can punch the bulls eye out of a target though, because she can see the crosshairs clearly.

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