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#6938451 - 10/29/17 08:23 PM Ruger M77 sight in question
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I haven't shot this gun in...5 years maybe 6-7

So it's been in the safe 99 percent of that time and I believed it still be sighted in

So this evening, I take it to my parents to sight it.

I didn't have a lot of time

3 shot group at 100 yards went...

1 shot-1" low and 1" to the right
2 shot-1" low and 1" to the left
3 shot-1" low and 1/2" to the right

I have a VX1 as glass

I am not an expert but I am guessing this is 2 moa?

Is that about realistically what it should be getting?

Not claiming to be 1" shooter at 500 yards guy just wondering
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#6938460 - 10/29/17 08:29 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
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What you described is what I consider a normal hunting rifle type of group. 90% of deer hunters cant shoot MOA even if their rifles can. 90% of hunters will tell you they can though. Just go to a public shooting range and look at the targets posted down range. They will make the group you described look great!

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#6938462 - 10/29/17 08:31 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
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What did it shoot before? Rugers 77s will shoot MOAish but they usually need a little bedding and trigger work. I have 4 of them.
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#6938483 - 10/29/17 08:42 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
procraft05 Offline
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I put a Timney trigger in it about 10 years ago. Set at 3.5 lbs

It's a .270 btw

I was shooting off a cattle trough.

I didn't fee like I pulled any but was wondering is that about what it should shoot for a normal shooter

Shooting Winchester Supremes, prob a 10 year old box
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#6938488 - 10/29/17 08:44 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
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Rugers can typically do better but they aint going to win many accuracy contests. That's coming from a big Ruger fan too.

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#6938494 - 10/29/17 08:46 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
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Get a better rest, try different ammo.

A $5000 rifle will shoot like crap, using ammo it doesn't like.

A $500 rifle can shoot terrific using ammo specifically tuned to it.
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#6938498 - 10/29/17 08:47 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: JCB]
procraft05 Offline
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Originally Posted By: JCB
Rugers can typically do better but they aint going to win many accuracy contests. That's coming from a big Ruger fan too.


Ok thanks, I've always liked Rugers too
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#6938512 - 10/29/17 08:50 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: FiremanJG]
procraft05 Offline
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Get a better rest, try different ammo.

A $5000 rifle will shoot like crap, using ammo it doesn't like.

A $500 rifle can shoot terrific using ammo specifically tuned to it.


Thanks JG, I don't ever imagine a shot coming from more than 200 yards max.

Just shooting a deer once every few years deal.
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#6938581 - 10/29/17 09:25 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
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Rugers will shoot. Just find the right ammo that your particular gun likes. Good trigger control and adequate rest.

Factory 270 Ruger M77 with Hornady 140 gr SST Superformance

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#6938600 - 10/29/17 09:34 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
FiremanJG Offline
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Originally Posted By: procraft05
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Get a better rest, try different ammo.

A $5000 rifle will shoot like crap, using ammo it doesn't like.

A $500 rifle can shoot terrific using ammo specifically tuned to it.


Thanks JG, I don't ever imagine a shot coming from more than 200 yards max.

Just shooting a deer once every few years deal.



Understood.

Yet, the way it's shooting right now.
Your zero is low.
At 200 yards, it'll shoot somewhere inside 10".
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#6947505 - 11/05/17 07:22 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
rickt300 Offline
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Get some fresh ammo and shoot from a real rest! Over a water trough you are shooting very well I say.

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#6947567 - 11/05/17 08:03 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
Chris42 Offline
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My Ruger will shoot like >2 MOA lighter ammo. I get a little heavier and I get 1-1.5 ish.

Perfectly acceptable for me. It will kill deer or elk out to 300 easy if I could shoot that well. They make some bad ones, but most are pretty decent.

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#6952708 - 11/09/17 08:03 AM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
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I am a Ruger fan and while I have owned rifles costing 4-5X what my Rugers do, they always do what I need them too......

This is my M77 MKII stainless .270win with 140gr Hornady BTSP at the range a couple weeks ago when I sighted in.


Leupold VariXIII 3.5-10x40 - I will say the trigger was replaced with a Timney and the stock with a Hogue; but before I replaced those parts this rifle was still accurate.

What I'm trying to say is that your group is about normal for a stock Ruger 77 but they can be much better; and I would feel more than comfortable hunting with your rifle.....after all if you don't like it just sell it to me.

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#6952903 - 11/09/17 09:40 AM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
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It’s interesting that a couple of you guys got great accuracy from the 140’s in the 270. When my Dad passed on a few years back, I got his rifle to give it a good cleaning, rescoped it, and decided to pass it along to his favorite grandson. And, since I had a bunch of unused 140 gr Sierra HPBT bullets, I loaded them up to see what they’d do. The rifle is an old tang safety M77 Ultralight, and it grouped those bullets amazingly well. I was amazed.

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#6953141 - 11/09/17 12:12 PM Re: Ruger M77 sight in question [Re: procraft05]
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Originally Posted By: procraft05
I haven't shot this gun in...5 years maybe 6-7

So it's been in the safe 99 percent of that time and I believed it still be sighted in

So this evening, I take it to my parents to sight it.

I didn't have a lot of time

3 shot group at 100 yards went...

1 shot-1" low and 1" to the right
2 shot-1" low and 1" to the left
3 shot-1" low and 1/2" to the right


I have a VX1 as glass

I am not an expert but I am guessing this is 2 moa?

Is that about realistically what it should be getting?

Not claiming to be 1" shooter at 500 yards guy just wondering

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Same point of impact on the vertical axis but stringing left to right sounds like you have a trigger control issue. Probably a combination in your case of not using a good rest and heavy factory trigger. Wouldn't worry about it a whole lot.
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