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#6937373 - 10/28/17 09:28 PM High fence regulation
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Iím asking this because I honestly donít know answer, it doesnít matter to me, and not intended to start arguments. It seems like I remember reading, somewhere, that before high fence can be put in place, all native game must be driven off property.
1 is that accurate ?
2 is it enforced ?

Already tried google.....

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#6937398 - 10/28/17 09:50 PM Re: High fence regulation [Re: Midwaytmm]
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Not true.
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#6937405 - 10/28/17 09:55 PM Re: High fence regulation [Re: Midwaytmm]
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Youíve read that because some people do it and others would like it done, but it isnít required in Texas. Some states may require it.
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#6937418 - 10/28/17 10:06 PM Re: High fence regulation [Re: Midwaytmm]
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Ok thanks. Probably why I couldnít find anything about it

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#6937488 - 10/29/17 01:52 AM Re: High fence regulation [Re: Midwaytmm]
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It is impossible to do.

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#6940572 - 10/31/17 08:52 AM Re: High fence regulation [Re: Big_Ag]
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I believe Michigan and a few other states do that. We discuss it from time to time because it's a logical modification that our state needs to adopt.

Run as many deer off as possible, and then close the fence. Fly it with a chopper to get a relatively close count and then pay the state for the native deer left inside.

That way the landowner owns the deer and the state doesn't spend resources controlling that property.
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#6941192 - 10/31/17 03:20 PM Re: High fence regulation [Re: therancher]
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Originally Posted By: therancher
I believe Michigan and a few other states do that. We discuss it from time to time because it's a logical modification that our state needs to adopt.

Run as many deer off as possible, and then close the fence. Fly it with a chopper to get a relatively close count and then pay the state for the native deer left inside.

That way the landowner owns the deer and the state doesn't spend resources controlling that property.


In the FantasyLand where this occurs, do the landowners now "own" the WT like any other exotic or livestock? They can hunt them 24/7/365? That would surely rustle some jimmies.

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#6942039 - 11/01/17 10:01 AM Re: High fence regulation [Re: maximus_flavius]
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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
Originally Posted By: therancher
I believe Michigan and a few other states do that. We discuss it from time to time because it's a logical modification that our state needs to adopt.

Run as many deer off as possible, and then close the fence. Fly it with a chopper to get a relatively close count and then pay the state for the native deer left inside.

That way the landowner owns the deer and the state doesn't spend resources controlling that property.


In the FantasyLand where this occurs, do the landowners now "own" the WT like any other exotic or livestock? They can hunt them 24/7/365? That would surely rustle some jimmies.


Yes they do. At that point there are no seasons/bag limits. Makes perfect sense. Of course, at TPWD perfect sense is the rarest of species...

Oh, and it's no fantasy land. That's how it works in Michigan.


Edited by therancher (11/01/17 10:03 AM)
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#6942050 - 11/01/17 10:11 AM Re: High fence regulation [Re: Midwaytmm]
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Ideally when high fencing a ranch you want to get rid of any lesser genetics as to not mix with the new genetics brought into the property once the fence is up. This can be done by pushing out deer with vehicles or choppers, people etc.. I believe most just try to kill off what is left inside the fence once its up. X2 its not required in Texas.
I can see the positives for being required to remove the deer before the fence but negatives as well.
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#6942066 - 11/01/17 10:21 AM Re: High fence regulation [Re: Teal28]
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Originally Posted By: Teal28
Ideally when high fencing a ranch you want to get rid of any lesser genetics as to not mix with the new genetics brought into the property once the fence is up. This can be done by pushing out deer with vehicles or choppers, people etc.. I believe most just try to kill off what is left inside the fence once its up. X2 its not required in Texas.
I can see the positives for being required to remove the deer before the fence but negatives as well.


That is only if you want to introduce genetics correctly.

Majority are not introducing. I know several hill country ranchs that fenced and with correct Ratioís, age structure and most importantly correct # to CC are taking native deer to 200lbs and 170-200Ē+.


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#6942246 - 11/01/17 12:32 PM Re: High fence regulation [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: Teal28
Ideally when high fencing a ranch you want to get rid of any lesser genetics as to not mix with the new genetics brought into the property once the fence is up. This can be done by pushing out deer with vehicles or choppers, people etc.. I believe most just try to kill off what is left inside the fence once its up. X2 its not required in Texas.
I can see the positives for being required to remove the deer before the fence but negatives as well.


That is only if you want to introduce genetics correctly.

Majority are not introducing. I know several hill country ranchs that fenced and with correct Ratioís, age structure and most importantly correct # to CC are taking native deer to 200lbs and 170-200Ē+.

I agree lots of outfits don't do it and have great results. My point was just generic. up
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#6942275 - 11/01/17 12:54 PM Re: High fence regulation [Re: therancher]
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Originally Posted By: therancher
I believe Michigan and a few other states do that. We discuss it from time to time because it's a logical modification that our state needs to adopt.

Run as many deer off as possible, and then close the fence. Fly it with a chopper to get a relatively close count and then pay the state for the native deer left inside.

That way the landowner owns the deer and the state doesn't spend resources controlling that property.


I would love to see that in TX.

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#6942299 - 11/01/17 01:06 PM Re: High fence regulation [Re: DUKFVR]
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Originally Posted By: DUKFVR
I would love to see that in TX.


why?
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#6942316 - 11/01/17 01:17 PM Re: High fence regulation [Re: redchevy]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
Originally Posted By: DUKFVR
I would love to see that in TX.


why?


I feel when you high fence your place in ,you should have to pay for the deer you trap in there, because you have now taken deer away from the other hunters. Whether you want them or not, they are now either gonna be in there or will be killed to bring in other genetics. I have no issues with high fencing, I am a landowner, just feel you should have to pay for what you have taken from the state, other hunters.

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#6942318 - 11/01/17 01:17 PM Re: High fence regulation [Re: redchevy]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
Originally Posted By: DUKFVR
I would love to see that in TX.


why?


One thought could be this. Its his land and he doesn't want the "peoples" deer interfering with what he can and can't do.

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