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Re: Austin paper this morning [Re: tlk] #6930314 10/23/17 08:44 PM
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I bet if someone offered enough money he would let that giraffe be hunted in a heartbeat.

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I need a giraffe.


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Originally Posted By: Teal28
I need a giraffe.


I keep telling my wife the same thing, along with a kangaroo......

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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Free range/fair chase vs. hunting confined animals is not a "method/methodology" debate.

If pens didn't exist, articles like this wouldn't be possible.

And saying fair chase is a farce i.e."There's no such thing as fair chase anyway, so everyone needs to just get OK with killing for killing's sake because they're all livestock anyway" is about the worst defense of hunting I've ever heard.


Anti-hunters, PETA, et al, would be writing (bellyaching) about any type of hunting.

& Nobody needs to "defend hunting". It's private property with privately owned animals. If PETA, HSUS, or anyone else doesn't like it, that's a shame. that's the beauty of private property, in particular HF private property.

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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
& Nobody needs to "defend hunting". It's private property with privately owned animals. If PETA, HSUS, or anyone else doesn't like it, that's a shame. that's the beauty of private property, in particular HF private property.


Mistreat livestock or pets on your private property and you may learn differently.

That's my concern as I look into the future, game animals being given the same rights and protection as domestic animals.


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Re: Austin paper this morning [Re: Texas Dan] #6930502 10/23/17 10:55 PM
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& Nobody needs to "defend hunting". It's private property with privately owned animals. If PETA, HSUS, or anyone else doesn't like it, that's a shame. that's the beauty of private property, in particular HF private property.


Mistreat livestock or pets on your private property and you may learn differently.

That's my concern as I look into the future, game animals being given the same rights and protection as domestic animals.


Irrelevant. PETA and HSUS stated back when the cite tag law suit was going on for scimitar oryx and addax that they would rather them go extinct then end up as table fare.

Toss that into the general public’s eyes and see how that works out... it didn’t thus why the return of the cites program.

General public actually doesn’t have an overwhelming support for peta and hsus. They having actually conserved any thing and well know for thier puppy death chambers.


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Bottom line it's a passive aggressive article. What happens is people assume this is what hunting is. I think the world could do without articles like this personally.

What a cool place though. It truly looks like Africa. I'm so in when the offer hog hunts with the Sherman tanks...how crazy would that be:)

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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Mistreat livestock or pets on your private property and you may learn differently.


do you think people spend hundreds of thousands (or more) on animals, just to mistreat tthem? The few people that I know that spend all their money, time, & livelihood on their animals & their property take excellent care of them, better than "real life mother nature" is to animals, that's pretty much their lives.

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Without the hunting market, the herds on that ranch would not exist.


Exactly. But some of us don't think those herds should exist in the middle of Texas. The biggest problem I have with folks creating their own zoo is that those zoo animals inevitably get out, populate, and compete with the native animals.

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Without the hunting market, the herds on that ranch would not exist.


Exactly. But some of us don't think those herds should exist in the middle of Texas. The biggest problem I have with folks creating their own zoo is that those zoo animals inevitably get out, populate, and compete with the native animals.


That’s a legitimate and actual real argument. Im on the fence with it because we now have native NA animals that are in areas they never existed before also, but we don’t complain about increase species opportunity... but ecological it’s not suppose to be a good thing


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Without the hunting market, the herds on that ranch would not exist.


Exactly. But some of us don't think those herds should exist in the middle of Texas. The biggest problem I have with folks creating their own zoo is that those zoo animals inevitably get out, populate, and compete with the native animals.


That’s a legitimate and actual real argument. Im on the fence with it because we now have native NA animals that are in areas they never existed before also, but we don’t complain about increase species opportunity... but ecological it’s not suppose to be a good thing


If it makes ya'll feel better my sons will shoot anything that escapes and shows up at their feeders. roflmao


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Without the hunting market, the herds on that ranch would not exist.


Exactly. But some of us don't think those herds should exist in the middle of Texas. The biggest problem I have with folks creating their own zoo is that those zoo animals inevitably get out, populate, and compete with the native animals.


That’s a legitimate and actual real argument. Im on the fence with it because we now have native NA animals that are in areas they never existed before also, but we don’t complain about increase species opportunity... but ecological it’s not suppose to be a good thing


If it makes ya'll feel better my sons will shoot anything that escapes and shows up at their feeders. roflmao


I would too!!! Variety is the spice of life,


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Ha, I'm not losing sleep over it, but it's a legit concern.

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Just had a funny thought...are giraffes and zebras and all manor of antelope the pigs of the future? Only kidding...kind of grin

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Originally Posted By: BassBuster1
Just had a funny thought...are giraffes and zebras and all manor of antelope the pigs of the future? Only kidding...kind of grin


There was a thread a while back about someone shooting an escaped HF ostrich.....I'm still laughing thinking about seeing one come running through my shooting lane.

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Just had a funny thought...are giraffes and zebras and all manor of antelope the pigs of the future? Only kidding...kind of grin


If you read the CWD threads then you would be correct. Will be only thing left.


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Just had a funny thought...are giraffes and zebras and all manor of antelope the pigs of the future? Only kidding...kind of grin


There was a thread a while back about someone shooting an escaped HF ostrich.....I'm still laughing thinking about seeing one come running through my shooting lane.


Had an emu show up on our game trail camera. They used to be farmed in Texas, and there are pockets of feral ones still around. Apparently there are some in our area.


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Just had a funny thought...are giraffes and zebras and all manor of antelope the pigs of the future? Only kidding...kind of grin


There was a thread a while back about someone shooting an escaped HF ostrich.....I'm still laughing thinking about seeing one come running through my shooting lane.


Had an emu show up on our game trail camera. They used to be farmed in Texas, and there are pockets of feral ones still around. Apparently there are some in our area.



Awesome!

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If it cant jump the fence and leave.. It's caged. Whether you agree or not. That is the truth.

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Yes, but there are different size cages. Using your logic: Fish can't escape the ocean, so I guess they are caged. All low fence animals are "caged" on the NA Continent.

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Typical short answer.

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Originally Posted By: Conchocowboy
If it cant jump the fence and leave.. It's caged. Whether you agree or not. That is the truth.


Jumping fences is an evolutionary process.

Lots of pronghorns and antelope species haven’t figured it out jumping 5’ fences, but then again they didn’t grow up jumping fallen trees either.

Then there are the russian roulette Fences such as I-35 and I-10


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Not going to start a war here. I just don't agree. Its not how i was taught. I just hate the money game. If you harvest it you should earn it with time spent in the woods and outsmarting the animal. Not pay a fee and drive to a location and be put in a high odds stand that you will most likely get the buck of a lifetime that was grown by human feeding and genetic blending. I see these 3yr olds that are 170 plus... That does not happen in an uncontrolled environment. Times have changed. I guess i am not about showing off antlers that have been grown this way. Peace to all.

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