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#6927092 - 10/20/17 01:05 PM Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks
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I value you guy's imput and opinions so I figure I'll ask. I just ordered my son the HOWA 1500 Black Houge package. It's a .223 with a scope and bipod and threaded barrel. Being that he's only 6 and a little rifle shy, I want to do everything possible to keep him comfortable and excited to keep shooting... With that being said, I consider my self behind on the times as I've never had any dealings with muzzle breaks or anything like that and honestly, don't know where to begin! So what's the word on a quality muzzle break? Will it help him with the recoil? Is there anything else I could do to help get the rifle to where it needs to be?



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#6927093 - 10/20/17 01:10 PM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: Bobcat4119]
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JMHO - There won't be enough recoil on a heavy 223 to be worth adding all that noise for. I don't even really have to shoulder my Tikka T3x Varmint 223.

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#6927107 - 10/20/17 01:25 PM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: patriot07]
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Originally Posted By: patriot07
JMHO - There won't be enough recoil on a heavy 223 to be worth adding all that noise for. I don't even really have to shoulder my Tikka T3x Varmint 223.


I agree. However, if you do decide you must have a brake, Midway has some AR Stoner brakes for not much money.
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#6927126 - 10/20/17 01:59 PM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: Bobcat4119]
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How about a little time with a well-fitting .22 to get over the shyness? From there, I wouldn't think the heavy .223 would be much of a leap.
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#6927136 - 10/20/17 02:06 PM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: Bobcat4119]
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A lot of the time it is the muzzle blast more so than recoil that bothers kids,

A proper fitting stock will go a long way in reducing felt recoil as will a good recoil pad on the well fitted stock.
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#6927164 - 10/20/17 02:28 PM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: syncerus]
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Originally Posted By: syncerus
How about a little time with a well-fitting .22 to get over the shyness? From there, I wouldn't think the heavy .223 would be much of a leap.


Yeah I've had him shooting my little 22 for a year or so and it will def help. He's already told me he's alittle scared to make the jump so I just wanna help any way I can.

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#6927167 - 10/20/17 02:30 PM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: Bobcat4119]
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Growing up my dad and granddad would just tell me to sit down and shoot whatever rifle and get a good laugh when I'd shoot... The basics of how I learned to shoot roflmao

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#6927191 - 10/20/17 02:59 PM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: Bobcat4119]
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Dry fire , stock pack, no muzzle brake

I think the super loud report is sometimes the biggest factor with little shooters

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#6927511 - 10/20/17 08:27 PM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: Bobcat4119]
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If you do, consider a linear compensator. It directs noise and blast down range. There are a number available, like the DPMS Levang model, several from Kaw Valley and Simple Threaded Devices.

Good luck.

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#6927592 - 10/20/17 10:05 PM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: Bobcat4119]
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Like others have said, I wouldn't put a muzzle break. The sound will do more to cause him to be trigger shy than the recoil on that gun.

Honestly, I would buy a suppressor. They are the greatest thing ever for rifles and I will never shoot again without one. The recoil and sound reduction make shooting infinitely more fun, especially for a kid.

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#6927645 - 10/21/17 12:12 AM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: Bobcat4119]
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Originally Posted By: Bobcat4119
Growing up my dad and granddad would just tell me to sit down and shoot whatever rifle and get a good laugh when I'd shoot... The basics of how I learned to shoot roflmao


Pretty much this. Heís 6, not a porcelain doll, and itís a .223. A muzzle brake would add a lot of noise for minimal reduction in recoil, because .223 doesnít recoil that much.

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#6927684 - 10/21/17 06:25 AM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: Bobcat4119]
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If he is shy with the 22, it may be the sound that is the problem. Try using ear plugs and ear muffs together.
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#6927699 - 10/21/17 06:50 AM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: Bobcat4119]
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Like some have said make sure the stock fits and with the heavy barrel recoil should not be a factor. You can also get managed/reduced recoil ammo and a suppressor which acts some what as a muzzle brake while muffling the sound. Also you can have a good recoil pad installed.

Just take your time and go slow and build his confidence, he will come around.

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#6927886 - 10/21/17 11:44 AM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: Bobcat4119]
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I think the weight will be an issue unless he only shoots off a bench. Going to be a fairly heavy gun with scope for a young 6 yo lad to hold steady shooting off hand. JMO
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#6928132 - 10/21/17 05:16 PM Re: Imput needed on Muzzle Breaks [Re: blackcoal]
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Originally Posted By: blackcoal
I think the weight will be an issue unless he only shoots off a bench. Going to be a fairly heavy gun with scope for a young 6 yo lad to hold steady shooting off hand. JMO


A 10/22 is going to be too heavy for offhand shooting. I think the Howa will be fine to get the youngster used to a full sized rifle; and one he can use to shoot a deer or hog with at a reasonable range.
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