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#6925753 - 10/19/17 09:34 AM 6mm Creed Load Recommendations
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Getting set up to load for the new 6 Creed and could use some recommendations from the THF brain-trust. The plan is:

- Lapua 6.5 Creed brass
- Whidden dies, what size bushing is recommended since I'm sizing down 6.5 brass?
- Do I need to turn necks since I'm sizing down 6.5 brass? I recall Chad really likes this process. grin
- Berger 105 gr hybrids
- H4831SC, any pet loads to share?
- Not sure what small rifle primers I have on hand but thinking CCI (br?)

Any other thoughts or recommendations?
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#6925762 - 10/19/17 09:45 AM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: Big Fitz]
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You are the first or maybe DSTROUD.

Look over on ACCURATESHOOTER.COM

Tons for info on the 6mm Creed

Are bushing dies REALLY needed on any round???

Turning necks is for the anal, who have a ton of extra time on their hands. Hell, even I wont do it. and look at the time I have.

Lapua is so good right outda box, run them through your sizer just enough to make necks round, prime and load. Get a carbide sizer ring for your FL die, they are greatness.

Cant you buy 6mm Creed brass????????????????? you've spent $10K already what's another $115 on brass?????

4831SC is heaven sent as is Varget

and I have no idea what I'm talking about.......I need to go turn some neck's bolt


Edited by Buzzsaw (10/19/17 09:45 AM)
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#6925765 - 10/19/17 09:46 AM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: Big Fitz]
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I'll look in a bit but most don't really change bushing when running the lapua vs nking h down or running hornady brass. I've only heard of br guys nk turing on the creed.

Primers are primers imo. I have tested on a couple different rounds and saw no deviation in extreme spread or standard deviation.

I've never ran 4831. Mine had h4350 then 4451 and now reloader 23.

Berger are solid just check if getting a new box or going between the boxes as there were some batches that varried a bit in the past.
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#6925768 - 10/19/17 09:48 AM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: Big Fitz]
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#6925782 - 10/19/17 09:58 AM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: Big Fitz]
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Tim,

Your components are looking good. The bushing size depends on the thickness of the Lapua brass, which I have not measured to know what size you would need. 4831 will work fine. Hodgdon has some data on their site, and would be a good starting point. Their data shows right at 3000 -3050 fps, which is about right. I've seen 3100 fps, and even 3150, which is getting up there. Primer wise, I run CCI #450's. I'm not sure if the BR-2 primers are standard or magnum rated. I run the magnum #450 in my 6.5x47 Lapua, with very low ES numbers. I like your rifle, BTW!!
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#6925897 - 10/19/17 11:34 AM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: Big Fitz]
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Why would you not run 115's?

If it were my project, I would investigate IMR 4451.
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#6925968 - 10/19/17 12:21 PM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Why would you not run 115's?


New DTAC's are bad to the bone. If twisted right the sierra 110's are legit. If not the Nosler RDF are solid too.
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#6926107 - 10/19/17 02:21 PM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: dee]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Why would you not run 115's?


New DTAC's are bad to the bone. If twisted right the sierra 110's are legit. If not the Nosler RDF are solid too.


Yup.

If you're gonna run a 6mm, run it right.
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#6926467 - 10/19/17 09:04 PM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: Big Fitz]
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Top three powders I have used so far H 4350/ Reloder 16/ Reloder 26
Reloder 26 is the champ for pure velocity I got above 3200 with 105’s with no excessive pressure but settled in at 3180fps. Last batch I loaded was with Reloder 16 and the 108ELD’s.

Based on my experience sizing down the Creedmoor Lapua brass to 22 caliber I would say no need to neck turn unless you just want too.

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#6926957 - 10/20/17 10:46 AM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: Big Fitz]
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Thanks all. I already bought the Bergers some time ago and had not even looked at the 115 DTACs. It's a 7.5 twist barrel so would think 115s would work. I also previously purchased 16 lbs of the H4831SC as it was the top recommendation for the 6mm SLR (original plan) but then decided to go 6mm Creedmoor. I thought the case capacity was very close so assumed it would a good choice.
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#6927036 - 10/20/17 11:58 AM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: Big Fitz]
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Sell all that stuff, and buy the right stuff. peep
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#6927401 - 10/20/17 06:49 PM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Sell all that stuff, and buy the right stuff. peep


You have already cost me a small fortune with FFP mil-mil scope recommendations. bang
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#6927458 - 10/20/17 07:36 PM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: Big Fitz]
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Originally Posted By: Big Fitz
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Sell all that stuff, and buy the right stuff. peep


You have already cost me a small fortune with FFP mil-mil scope recommendations. bang


So, evidently you're a slow learner. Call me before committing to a bunch of the wrong things. grin
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#6927985 - 10/21/17 01:49 PM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: Big Fitz
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Sell all that stuff, and buy the right stuff. peep


You have already cost me a small fortune with FFP mil-mil scope recommendations. bang


So, evidently you're a slow learner. Call me before committing to a bunch of the wrong things. grin


I'm slow but precise! DTACs were not available when I stocked up. Now you, on the other hand, are a Firearms Democrat that likes to spend other people's money! lol35
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#6927999 - 10/21/17 02:03 PM Re: 6mm Creed Load Recommendations [Re: Big Fitz]
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