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#6921272 - 10/15/17 02:03 PM Guest Policy on Your Lease
jadkins Offline
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Registered: 08/11/17
Posts: 15
Loc: Midland, TX
All,

In your experience what is the guest policy on your lease / leases you've heard of? Deer harvested included in your allotment or pay extra by deer?

Thanks.

JA

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#6921276 - 10/15/17 02:10 PM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
BayouGuy Offline
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Registered: 03/27/13
Posts: 1569
Loc: S.E. Louisiana
On our 10 man 900 acre pine plantation lease, the club limit is three deer per member - 2 bucks, 1 doe. Guests are allowed with no fee. Both guest and hunter must occupy the same stand with one gun. Any deer killed go against the member's three deer limit. Generally speaking, guests are youth relatives of the member.
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#6921277 - 10/15/17 02:14 PM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
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Bird Dog

Registered: 09/21/11
Posts: 367
Loc: Katy Texas
Our LO was very generous and we had an abundance of deer. One deer doe or buck on the guest tag. I asked my guest before hand take doe and hogs only. We had a great time grilling and playing cards. We never had anybody's day get upset.

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#6921278 - 10/15/17 02:16 PM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
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Registered: 06/11/15
Posts: 3627
Our policy.

No guests before Thanksgiving. Only 1 guest during deer season, any harvest is off lessee allotment,
We don't have a huge deer population.

Outside of deer season a member can bring guests for hog. But for a max of five times for each guest. We figure if they come more than that, they can pay.

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#6921344 - 10/15/17 03:28 PM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
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gumshoe

Registered: 08/31/05
Posts: 16642
Loc: North Texas
Current lease of over 20 years. No hunting guests allowed. There was an understood unspoken unquestioned youth privilege not to be abused, but we are down to only two members and our kids are grown, so not needed now.

I was on a second lease for a few years. Guests allowed after Thanksgiving. Shoot from the paying hunters bag limit. Also only after thanksgiving anyone's stand on the lease could be hunted by anyone as long as the person who owned the stand was not on the lease or using it. Only problem is if I was not staying on the lease the night before, I would sometimes show up to my stand to find someone hunting my stand before thanksgiving. Also it seemed like after half the members stopped filling their feeders after thanksgiving, but hunted other's stands that did.

I was on a large lease before with several members. Three different groups that did not know each other very well, but hunting together. There was detailed written rules from the landowner with youth allowed a doe/turkey, guests could take bucks does and pay a kill fee. You were only allowed to hunt your area or stands all season without permission from a member to hunt his/her stand. Widely abused by many including the lease manager and no one paid. Most did not even know the written rules existed I think.

While hunting as a guest on a friend's lease one weekend another member confided in me that they got on that lease because it had a liberal guest policy of one guest allowed anytime and no limit on what guest could kill. The two guys split the cost of the single lease spot, but both hunted on the lease every weekend as paying member and guest. It was almost as if the guy was recruiting me. This was a huge lease with several spots sold to different individuals and groups by the landowner. Unknown to the landowner I suspect this was done in the same way by others on that lease. Technically I suppose it was not against the rules as written by the landowner. I sat with my friend in his stand that weekend because there was no other place left on the lease without someone hunting it.

That second lease I was on for a few years I think the landowner originally handled the family close friend guest issue by splitting a lease spot into a "half spot" paying member. Half the cost of a full lease spot and could only take half a bag limit for that county. Otherwise the half spot was a member like anyone else including signing a contract and release. But I know the landowner was doing away with the half spots by attrition. I was the last half spot on that lease when a local group of hunters offered the landowner more money for the lease than our group could afford to match.
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#6921355 - 10/15/17 03:39 PM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
Jimbo1 Offline
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Registered: 09/25/12
Posts: 1585
Loc: Moran/Grand Prairie, TX
Kids/spouse can hunt anytime, deer taken off your allotment. Guests only allowed after Thanksgiving, deer taken off your allotment. No problems so far.

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#6921468 - 10/15/17 05:51 PM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
tlk Offline
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Registered: 07/25/13
Posts: 2346
Totally depends on the type of lease you have. If it is a low key, not heavily managed lease then guest policy can be more liberal. If it is a well managed trophy lease then that is a different story.

In my 50 plus years of being on a variety of Texas leases, I would summarize that the guest policy is the number one issue that can make or break a lease. If guest are unlimited and can shoot what they want then there will be on going issues for sure.

We are on 9000 acres south texas trophy lease LF - we allow direct family OR one guest max. This is up to Dec 15th at which time we restrict to only direct family (this is due to the rut and naturally more hunters in camp during that time of the season)

Any and all guest must sit with the paid hunter and can only shoot what the paid member OK's. We are MLD so does and culls are fine

Good luck
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#6921551 - 10/15/17 07:05 PM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: tlk]
Texas Dan Offline
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Registered: 07/28/08
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Originally Posted By: tlk
In my 50 plus years of being on a variety of Texas leases, I would summarize that the guest policy is the number one issue that can make or break a lease. If guest are unlimited and can shoot what they want then there will be on going issues for sure.


And it gets worse when a guest results in a deer being unrecovered, which is likely when guests are inexperienced hunters who seldom shoulder a firearm. The same is true for members who use the "everyone misses" defense to justify unrecovered deer not counting against their harvest limits.

Both are enough to drive some leases to adopt a no guests policy.
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#6921555 - 10/15/17 07:09 PM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
onlysmith&wesson Offline
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Registered: 07/10/14
Posts: 427
Loc: Lewisville/ Foard County
None allowed, other than spouse or children who hunt off members limit.

Guests are trouble. Leases are expensive and a lot of work. Why risk it?

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#6921574 - 10/15/17 07:30 PM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
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Registered: 10/24/13
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Loc: In the Layout
Two buck lease/county, one "trophy", one cull. Any deer taken by a guest comes off the allotment of the paying member. Taking from the members allotment helps keep everyone in check imo. Basically you're responsible for any deer your buddy takes. If he messes up and shoots a "trophy", you miss out on your trophy that year, and maybe don't invite that guy back. But also if you have a nice buck that you want to give to your kid, dad, whoever, you have the option. Does are free game.
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#6921821 - 10/15/17 10:35 PM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
CRAnderson52 Offline
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Registered: 08/12/11
Posts: 2661
Loc: Highland Village, Texas
We allow guests any time but they hunt with whoever they've come with, off of their hosts tag and they're there to shoot pigs and does only. Bucks are off limits unless it's a kiddo.
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#6921860 - 10/15/17 11:40 PM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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Registered: 08/31/05
Posts: 16642
Loc: North Texas
Originally Posted By: onlysmith&wesson
None allowed, other than spouse or children who hunt off members limit.

Guests are trouble. Leases are expensive and a lot of work. Why risk it?


I have been on other leases than the ones I posted about. I second, Guests are trouble. A common denominator was that every lease I was on that allowed guests in some form that also limited what they could kill, some of the lease members would ultimately talk about or accuse other members of allowing their guest to take game that was not declared. Like when hunting during the week when no one else was there or after they drove by camp from stand to town without stopping as examples. While walking into camp I have even been shot at by someones guest hunter when he thought I was a coyote. I personally feel safer on public land than I do on leases with unknown inexperienced guests hunting.
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#6921982 - 10/16/17 07:13 AM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
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Take a friend or family member huntin. Good memories that last a lifetime.
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#6922240 - 10/16/17 10:29 AM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
Dien Offline
Tracker

Registered: 08/16/12
Posts: 528
Loc: Grand Prairie
One guest during deer season and must stay with you. Use your tag.

Use of other stands and feeders up to members but we're all understanding and share as needed.

I have never seen the lease manager on lease. Kinda disappears until payment time comes.

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#6922244 - 10/16/17 10:34 AM Re: Guest Policy on Your Lease [Re: jadkins]
Creekrunner Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 10/19/12
Posts: 9014
Loc: Bexar/Gillespie, hunt Terrell
10 paid spots, 5 members. Guests/family shoot off your allotment (10 trophy WT, 10 cull WT total).

In my experience, members' kids can either be a tremendous asset to have around (workers), or way worse than any non-family guest.
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