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 Re: Ever had a rifle not like ammo?
[Re: Sneaky]
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10/07/17 04:01 PM
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mikei
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I'm a bit surprised that there has been no discussion about barrel harmonics. I'm a reloader and have several Ruger #1's that I tried to get to shoot inside a barn at 100 yards without much luck. Finally, in frustration, having tried all the published tricks of the trade to "fix" the problems, I bought a little rubber "doughnut" that slides onto the barrel. Moving the doughnut up or back in small increments, and CHANGING NOTHING ELSE in my loads, I started getting MOA out of 3 of the 4 rifles! I assume that the doughnut is a workaround for a more serious, bedding problem, but it worked well for me, and I think it must be a harmonics issue with the barrels that is dampened or changed by the rubber ring. I’d scrap a rifle barrel before I put that abomination on anything, even if it does work. To each his own. I, personally, couldn't afford to replace the rifle barrels. Neither can I. That’s how awful I think they look. Say what? 
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Re: Ever had a rifle not like ammo?
[Re: HansETX]
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10/10/17 10:45 PM
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hopalong
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I have a core diamondback, hvy barrel, 1:8 twist. it hates 77 gr. 5.56, loves the 62 gr. green tip.
just got some 65 gr. hpbt to try, probably will just stick with the 62 gr. tho.
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Re: Ever had a rifle not like ammo?
[Re: ChadTRG42]
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10/12/17 05:14 PM
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native_
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From what I understand, they went with the 1:7 twist in order to stabilize the heavier and longer M856 tracer round despite increasing group size with standard M855 which was more accurate out of a 1:9 barrel. https://www.americanrifleman.org/article...ball-cartridge/
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Re: Ever had a rifle not like ammo?
[Re: HansETX]
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10/12/17 10:26 PM
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a74aggie
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I have a Ruger 1 22-250 and I can't even get it on the paper using Hornady, but I can drive tacks with Winchester Ballistic SilverTip ammo.
First gun I've ever seen that just doesn't like some ammo.
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Re: Ever had a rifle not like ammo?
[Re: a74aggie]
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10/12/17 10:57 PM
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HansETX
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I have a Ruger 1 22-250 and I can't even get it on the paper using Hornady, but I can drive tacks with Winchester Ballistic SilverTip ammo.
First gun I've ever seen that just doesn't like some ammo. It's been frustrating. Just finally gave up and dropped down to smaller grain ammo..
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Re: Ever had a rifle not like ammo?
[Re: HansETX]
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10/17/17 02:59 AM
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My Glenfield 30A in 30-30 shoots 150gr bullets very well and accurate. Generally can touch each 5 shot group with a quarter at 100 yards with 150gr. But 170gr targets look like I shot them with a shotgun at the end of a session- all over the place (as much as a 10 inch spread in shots). Same brands- only difference is bullet weight.
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Re: Ever had a rifle not like ammo?
[Re: HansETX]
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10/17/17 02:28 PM
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Vern1
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As ChadTGR42 said, this cal can go from tackdriver to pieplate with an ammo change.
Part of the reason .223/5.56 are all over the place is because THEY ARE.
First, you have two loads: .223 at one pressure and 5.56 at considerably higher pressure.
Second, you have 3 chambers readily available: standard .223, .223 Wylde and 5.56.
Third, there are twist rates between 1/6 and 1/13.
Forth, gas tube length/bolt weight.
And finally, multiple rifling versions.
Cheers,
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