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#6907274 - 10/03/17 10:43 AM It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber
ChadTRG42 Offline
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Every year, I take phone calls about "what caliber should I get?" questions. This year is no different. Often my answer is 308, or if you want something a little more sexy, a 7-08, 6.5 CM or similar (for Texas critters). Then the comment is, "I'm thinking about a ...(insert the latest big wiz bang magnum here)" Sure, these big rounds have more speed and more energy, but can you REALLY shoot them better than a general purpose round? Big magnums do not get shot as much as a more shootable round. They also kick more with more muzzle blast, which often times shooters flinch or pull shots more frequent. A more shootable round is often less expensive and will be shot and practiced with more frequently (hopefully). A misplaced shot on an animal with a big magnum is still a bad shot.

I have been hunting with a 300 Black Out for the last 4 seasons (about to be 5), and will keep using it this coming season. I'm pushing a 125 grain bullet at 2350 fps (16" suppressed bolt gun). I have taken countless game and critters with it. I can easily get a round on target out to 400 yards with it, no problem (I shot a perched crow on a branch at a lasered 252 yards last season). I think it was last year when one of the new guys in camp saw that I had taken several critters already and he asked to see what I was using. I showed him my little rifle and the little 300 blk out round with 125 grain bullet. You could see the surprised look on his face and some jokes ensued about how size matters. I have always thought it was about how you used it, not how big it was! Everything I have shot with this little round either dropped in it's tracks, or ran about 10-20 yards. Shot placement was right on target.

My point is this- Shooters/hunters need to plan for a rifle and caliber that they can shoot well, practice and get a good shot on target. Let the round do the rest, even dialing down the caliber some to gain a more shootable rifle. Modern day bullets work well, even for some of the smaller cartridges out there.
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#6907305 - 10/03/17 10:59 AM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Very true!
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#6907364 - 10/03/17 11:51 AM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
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A good bullet of decent weight put in the right spot will do the job pretty easily. These aren't Cape Buffalo. A .308, 7-08, 6/6.5 Creedmoor are more than sufficient.
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#6907367 - 10/03/17 11:52 AM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
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You are right on.
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#6907398 - 10/03/17 12:09 PM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
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We got Bill's rifle built, I made a tight shooting hand load, and got him behind it for lots and lots of rounds. It's a 7mm-08 A.I. still running in virgin brass, so just a 7mm-08. Once I shot those two cows with my 7 Rem Mag (which isn't unpleasant to shoot) he asked if his 7mm-08 would have done the job. I said, sure it would have, if you put the bullets in the same place, and I bet you could have now that you've shot it so much and shot it out to 1400 yards, on steel. The ONLY hitch MIGHT have been if the bullet out of the 7mm-08 hit a rib. Even then, I bet it would've been fine.

I've now had hundreds of customers out to the range for the day. More often than not, the guys that enjoy the day the most, are the ones shooting something in a short action. Yesterday my customer shot a 6.5 Creedmoor, with a brake. He, and it, shot so well, we ended the day wearing out the little 1 MOA targets 500 to 800 yards. And it was windy! I asked him, like I ask everyone, at the end of the day "how does 100 to 400 yards feel now?" And I got the same answer as always, "I feel very comfortable with those distances, now." I recommend to everyone, to shoot lots of rounds behind a short action, before graduating up to something long action.

The cartridge a guy can shoot the most precise is the one that will serve him best.
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#6907506 - 10/03/17 01:34 PM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
txtrophy85 Offline
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Your basically shooting a 7.62x39 round.


About on par with a .30-30


Nothing spectacular about it either way.


Personally for deer hunting I like a bit stouter round as perfect shot placement isn't always available in real hunting situations

Hope for the best but plan for the worst

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#6907541 - 10/03/17 01:55 PM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Very Well Said.

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#6907544 - 10/03/17 01:58 PM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
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#6907551 - 10/03/17 02:10 PM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: txtrophy85]
ChadTRG42 Offline
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Your basically shooting a 7.62x39 round.


About on par with a .30-30


Nothing spectacular about it either way.


Personally for deer hunting I like a bit stouter round as perfect shot placement isn't always available in real hunting situations

Hope for the best but plan for the worst


Yes, yes, and yes!
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#6907569 - 10/03/17 02:22 PM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
Drogers6771 Offline
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I have all the usual suspects for WT in the safe but I almost exclusively use my grandmother's 6mm Rem. She was a very small woman, about 5'2" and had a gun custom fit for her, and even though I'm 6'3" 230 it is far and away my favorite gun to shoot. It's an old Mohawk 600 with a vintage Redfield wide angle scope and it will surely reach out and touch em.

1 vote for shot placement

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#6907576 - 10/03/17 02:26 PM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
NMGW Offline
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Agree with all above, I am a big fan of the 30-06 and all my buddies are moving to 300 win mag and 300 RUM. In my Browning X-Bolt I can push a 165 grain bullet @ 3000 FPS, "180's are hitting 2880" and it is very comfortable to shoot and accurate. So they can have their mags I will stick to the 06. If I primarily hunted Whitetail I would opt for a .243 or 7mm-08. In my home state I need a little bigger pill for Elk and Oryx, or even Barbary Sheep at 500 yards which is often the only shot I got.
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#6907585 - 10/03/17 02:38 PM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
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many, many moons ago i told a friend of my i was going elk hunting. He as me what rifle i was taking 308, he said it was only a 150 yard rifle and i needed to take his 340 weatherby mag. never having shot one i agreed to go to the range with him, 2 shots and i said NOT FOR ME i am only hunting elk. problem was he couldn't shoot it either. that was the most punishing rifle i ever shot, i can shoot the 308,3006 444, don't think i could have hit and elk with the 340
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#6907596 - 10/03/17 02:48 PM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
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The majority of hunters I see are over-scoped and over-gunned. A 7-08 with any good bullet like a partition or accubond will kill any elk walking graveyard dead. A fella over on 24HCF, BMD, took his daughter to Africa and she has whacked numerous plains game with her 7-08 and 140 TTSX bullets.

I've been a diehard 7mag shooter for most of my 45 years chasing big game. The more I shoot the 7-08 the more I like it, and it's performance on big game.

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#6907651 - 10/03/17 03:29 PM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: Jgraider]
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Originally Posted By: Jgraider
A fella over on 24HCF, BMD, took his daughter to Africa and she has whacked numerous plains game with her 7-08 and 140 TTSX bullets.


Correct. I loaded his ammo for his daughter for that hunt. He's on here, also. She did good!
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#6907664 - 10/03/17 03:39 PM Re: It's more about shot placement than a BIG caliber [Re: ChadTRG42]
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