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Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6907453 10/03/17 05:55 PM
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If it's just a corporate policy what's to stop you from buying the firearm from another store?
Doesn't sound like it's that big a deal to get angry over.



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Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6907611 10/03/17 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: doggit
Went to buy a Taurus pistol they had on sale already have 3 so need another like I need a hole in my head but for the price figured WTF. Anyways just bought a gun from them last month no problems. This time was filling form out on their tablet and was talking to guy while was filling it out. He was checking my CHL license. Handed it back to him when done and he says cant sell me pistol because I answered question wrong. WTF??? Asked what it was said he couldn't tell me that would be coaching me and a felony. Now I'm getting pissed. Call a manager, told them they need to show me wrong question. He said couldn't. I told them without showing me proof how do I know the employee just isn't profiling me and rejecting my form. Finally they showed me I answered the " are you and illegal" wrong I didn't put N/A for next question. And once I signed it TOO Bad!!! JEEZ now I know it was my fault, I'm about as white of a boy as they come 45 yrs old, just bought a gun from them last month, they know me at the store, I have a CHL. But their store policy is if you screw up on yellow form once its signed , you are banned for 30 days from buying any firearm at ANY academy. I used to like them and think they were about promoting hunting and shooting but this stupid [censored] store policy has me rethinking that??? Now I know it was my fault, but use some common sense. I asked them how could the illegal question even be asked because cops can't even ask that question? They had no answer. I asked what ATF rules are for a mistake?? They had no answer. Told them would like to know because surely Federal law trumps any store policy. Said they would get back with me. Yeah right! Morale of the post is make sure you answered questions on form right before turning it in at ACADEMY!!!! [censored]!!!


I thought it was because you bought a Taurus...

Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6907674 10/03/17 08:47 PM
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man, guys remind me to never have yall on a jury..tough crowd..this is why i quit facebook..too much drama..the guy was just venting..

Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: mow] #6907705 10/03/17 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: mow
man, guys remind me to never have yall on a jury..tough crowd..this is why i quit facebook..too much drama..the guy was just venting..


There was not a "give hugs" option on the forum.


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Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: ChadTRG42] #6907993 10/04/17 12:31 AM
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They have to back track the history of the gun, first, by the serial #. If a firearm and serial is recovered in a crime, someone will immediately call the mfg (or mfg rep company) for the tracking history. The mfg will, typically, supply the distributor then the distributor will provide the retailer or shop where it was originally sold.

On the used gun, the gun had to come from somewhere if it's through an FFL. The FFL would have in their books where it came from, either a private individual or another FFL, and then who it was sold to. I have received a few letters from the ATF looking for a certain serial numbered firearm just for this purpose. The tracking trail went cold, and they are reaching out to FFL's to check their files for this serial #.

Some larger FFL's have gone digital (hence the Academy issue), and the serial numbers are stored into a data base that can quickly be accessed, I'm sure by whomever has access.


Chad, that very thing happened to my brother. He had purchased a new pistol at a local store in a small town in west Texas and gave it to his (then) wife. Years later, he got contacted by some law authority inquiring about the pistol. Turns out the wild-child step daughter had absconded with mom's pistol and grandma's car and gone on a joy ride with one of her girlfriends.

When the pistol showed up in grandma's car, they called Taurus with the serial number who gave them the info that wound up with the name of the dealer it went to. They contacted the FFL, he went and dug through his boxes and found the yellow sheet. My brother still lived in the same town and TxDPS or whoever it was contacted him. He told them he had given it to the ex wife and that's when he found out about the joyride episode that ended up with a wrecked car!

I bet a lot of them just go to a cold trail.

Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6908073 10/04/17 01:30 AM
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Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6908082 10/04/17 01:34 AM
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Very interesting. So if a new gun purchased by a CHL holder was used in criminal activity there would be no way the Feds could trace that unless they went to manufacturer and got FFL holder to look through his individual records? And if a CHL holder bought a used gun from a FFL dealer there is even less chance of tracing the life history of that gun?? Do I understand?


All traces are the same, doesn't matter if you used a CHL or not, the NICS check would in no was assist in a trace either way Yes, used guns are more difficult to trace....

Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6908148 10/04/17 02:39 AM
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I love Academy. Hard to beat their prices. My only beef with Academy is they stopped carrying Terminator spinnerbaits



Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: TurkeyHunter] #6908809 10/04/17 06:31 PM
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man, guys remind me to never have yall on a jury..tough crowd..this is why i quit facebook..too much drama..the guy was just venting..


There was not a "give hugs" option on the forum.

roflmao

Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6908864 10/04/17 07:12 PM
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Thanks for ALL your responses and expert advice. After sleeping on it a couple of days I now realize with the help of you and academy the seriousness of my potentially deadly mistake! What was I thinking, to even suggest using common sense or a 1 day ban. Obviously because of the seriousness of the mistake and academy's desire to protect the public from individuals like me, YES now I understand it was totally and solely my fault and was lucky a 30 day ban was ALL I got. SO in order for me to be able to sleep at night I have decided on a self imposed LIFETIME BAN from me being able to buy firearms at any academy in the United States. Now hold on, I know that sounds extreme, but just take a look at the blatant, horrible, intentional mistake I made, and you will be able to understand why I think a lifetime ban is neccisary on my part. Thanks goodness academy and the ATF is doing their part to keep our citizens safe from potentially ILLEGALS like me! I'm feeling safer already. Go stock up on your BUMP FIRES that's next. Never mind the 1000's of deaths from people using their cell phones while driving. Let's have more gun control. I'd be willing to bet just as many people die from cell phone related deaths as one's caused by guns, if not more. But you don't hear the libtards screaming about stopping cell phone use while driving! And I guess now ol HONEST Hillary spoke directly about silencers we can all forget about the HPA any time soon. SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6908901 10/04/17 08:02 PM
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Glad you got it figured out. I guess the world can go back to spinning, now.

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Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6909700 10/05/17 02:09 PM
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Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6909724 10/05/17 02:26 PM
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Taking responsibility is step one to finding peace. Happy to see we are making progress.

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Glad you got it figured out. I guess the world can go back to spinning, now.
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Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6909965 10/05/17 05:57 PM
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Most recent post was even dumber than the 1st one.

Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: mikei] #6909986 10/05/17 06:08 PM
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Take your business elsewhere, and let Academy know that you won't be buying from them any more and the exact reason why. You can do a lot better on price, almost anywhere, even on line. Let your wallet/checkbook do the talking.


this ^^^^


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Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6910646 10/06/17 02:51 AM
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Should have called eric holder and obama. They give guns to illrgals

Re: Went to academy made yellow form mistake now banned 30 days [Re: doggit] #6913375 10/09/17 12:49 AM
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The bright side is you still have 3 of the same gun.

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