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#6897367 - 09/24/17 01:42 PM Savage MSR-10 hunter range report
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Finally made it to the range to try out the new rifle. Tried to do this the last trip out to the lease but ended up spending to much time fixing & filling deer feeders...

Tried two different kinds of ammo, each is written on the target. I would hoping it would do a little better, but I didn't get this rifle for making small groups. It will work plenty good for taking out hogs. I may try some other ammo, or reloading some for it to see if it will do better.





And just for fun, I took the Ruger American Rimfire Target, 100y using CCI SV. 30 rounds.

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#6897676 - 09/24/17 06:54 PM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Sigmund]
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With under 1.5 moa on the average it's pretty decent. Are these reloads?

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#6898067 - 09/25/17 09:06 AM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Sigmund]
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They were not reloads. Factory hornady match 168g ELD-M and hornady black 168g A-Max

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#6898072 - 09/25/17 09:12 AM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Sigmund]
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With a 1:10 5R barrel I would have expected a little better. I wonder if it will shoot better once you've got some more rounds through it.
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#6898085 - 09/25/17 09:32 AM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Sigmund]
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Both my savages shoot the 150 grain bullets better than 168s for what that is worth
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#6898100 - 09/25/17 09:41 AM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Sigmund]
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Good initial report. Thanks for sharing.
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#6898965 - 09/25/17 09:20 PM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Sigmund]
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There were only about 30 rounds fired before I shot the targets posted above. I'm hoping it will improve with more rounds fired, but my expectations of that happening are not high.

I plan on trying some 150-155g and 178g bullets to see how they perform. This afternoon I also remembered that the savage manual usually has a recommendation for ammo. My experience has been that what they recommend shoots well. Picture from the manual is below (I think it's the same manual for all MSR's). I'll post new target photos if the results are significantly different than the ones above.

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#6899490 - 09/26/17 11:00 AM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Sigmund]
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I'm suprised by the ammo recommendation for 6.5 Creedmoor

I'm thinking your going to see 1.5" at 100 for the Federal Fusion load as that is what I've gotten from it from 3 different Creedmoors .

I believe it's listed because the target market is hunters for that MsR therefore they chose a good hunting load (fusion bullet)...

Hopefully I'm wrong

P.S. - the 308 recommended load is not a Hunter optimal bullet which would seem to contradict my opinion however I'd say these manuals are cobbled together at various stages in development and perhaps they changed some goals internally on accuracy midstream.

Another example of this would be where are the 338 Federal guns? I don't see a recommended load for that caliber.... therefore how realistic is the recommended loads in the manual ....


Edited by Pig_Popper (09/26/17 11:05 AM)
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#6899611 - 09/26/17 12:16 PM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Pig_Popper]
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Originally Posted By: Pig_Popper
I'm suprised by the ammo recommendation for 6.5 Creedmoor

I'm thinking your going to see 1.5" at 100 for the Federal Fusion load as that is what I've gotten from it from 3 different Creedmoors .

I believe it's listed because the target market is hunters for that MsR therefore they chose a good hunting load (fusion bullet)...

Hopefully I'm wrong

P.S. - the 308 recommended load is not a Hunter optimal bullet which would seem to contradict my opinion however I'd say these manuals are cobbled together at various stages in development and perhaps they changed some goals internally on accuracy midstream.

Another example of this would be where are the 338 Federal guns? I don't see a recommended load for that caliber.... therefore how realistic is the recommended loads in the manual ....


1. All ammo suggestions are Federal. Hmmm. So no Hornady, Remington, or other major mfg was tested? Smells.
2. Old book, .338 is a new offering so not included.
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#6899650 - 09/26/17 12:50 PM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: Pig_Popper
I'm suprised by the ammo recommendation for 6.5 Creedmoor

I'm thinking your going to see 1.5" at 100 for the Federal Fusion load as that is what I've gotten from it from 3 different Creedmoors .

I believe it's listed because the target market is hunters for that MsR therefore they chose a good hunting load (fusion bullet)...

Hopefully I'm wrong

P.S. - the 308 recommended load is not a Hunter optimal bullet which would seem to contradict my opinion however I'd say these manuals are cobbled together at various stages in development and perhaps they changed some goals internally on accuracy midstream.

Another example of this would be where are the 338 Federal guns? I don't see a recommended load for that caliber.... therefore how realistic is the recommended loads in the manual ....


1. All ammo suggestions are Federal. Hmmm. So no Hornady, Remington, or other major mfg was tested? Smells.
2. Old book, .338 is a new offering so not included.


1. Good point - I agree it smells

2. The Savage AR10 is new all together, first year for that weapon in Savage's lineup regardless of caliber. EDIT: I assumed the posted photo I'd recommend loads is from a MSR Hunter manual not an older manual "book"...

IF they ever produce a 338 Fed you'll probably see a very small quantity much like DPMS LR-338


Edited by Pig_Popper (09/26/17 12:51 PM)
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#6899745 - 09/26/17 02:11 PM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
With a 1:10 5R barrel I would have expected a little better. I wonder if it will shoot better once you've got some more rounds through it.
that's what I was thinking, but I never just tried two loads.
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#6899764 - 09/26/17 02:22 PM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Sigmund]
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The manual for my model 12 included hornady ammo so I didn't give it a second thought. But on closer inspection its probably not a coincidence about the ammo, or that it has mostly Blackhawk accessories, the mothership wants to drive sales.
https://vistaoutdoor.com/brands/

Edit: The photo of recommended loads is from the manual I received with the rifle a couple months ago.


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#6899836 - 09/26/17 03:36 PM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Pig_Popper]
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Originally Posted By: Pig_Popper
Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: Pig_Popper
I'm suprised by the ammo recommendation for 6.5 Creedmoor

I'm thinking your going to see 1.5" at 100 for the Federal Fusion load as that is what I've gotten from it from 3 different Creedmoors .

I believe it's listed because the target market is hunters for that MsR therefore they chose a good hunting load (fusion bullet)...

Hopefully I'm wrong

P.S. - the 308 recommended load is not a Hunter optimal bullet which would seem to contradict my opinion however I'd say these manuals are cobbled together at various stages in development and perhaps they changed some goals internally on accuracy midstream.

Another example of this would be where are the 338 Federal guns? I don't see a recommended load for that caliber.... therefore how realistic is the recommended loads in the manual ....


1. All ammo suggestions are Federal. Hmmm. So no Hornady, Remington, or other major mfg was tested? Smells.
2. Old book, .338 is a new offering so not included.


1. Good point - I agree it smells

2. The Savage AR10 is new all together, first year for that weapon in Savage's lineup regardless of caliber. EDIT: I assumed the posted photo I'd recommend loads is from a MSR Hunter manual not an older manual "book"...

IF they ever produce a 338 Fed you'll probably see a very small quantity much like DPMS LR-338


PP, I didn't even know they were going to offer .338 and hadn't heard until you posted it. A quick search of their site reveals the model numbers for .308 and 6.5 are 22902 and 22903, 1 number apart. The .338 is 22919, suggesting it came along a bit later (hence my idea that the book might be too old to include the .338 ammo).

.338 should be a killer!
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#6900194 - 09/26/17 09:05 PM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Sigmund]
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This guy is getting 1 1/4 inch groups at 100 yards in 6.5 Creedmoor with American Eagle and 3" groups with Federal Gold Medal Match (Berger bullet) - that's not ordinary...

He is hoping the barrel magically tightens at 90 + rounds...


Edited by Pig_Popper (09/26/17 09:25 PM)
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#6900204 - 09/26/17 09:11 PM Re: Savage MSR-10 hunter range report [Re: Sigmund]
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The guy straight up said that the bullet stabilizes past 100 yards and you can get tighter groups at longer ranges than at 100 yards. First I've heard of such an idea, if it's even true. He said even though he's getting 1"-1.25" groups at 100 yards, he may very well get 2" groups at 400.

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