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#6894833 - 09/21/17 05:16 PM Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations
pharmvet Offline
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Got a Garmin Alpha 100 a month or so back. Took my dogs to Nebraska earlier in the week and used it for the first time. This thing is AWESOME!!!! Talk about peace of mind. Really cool being able to see direction and distance. The thing that I think has impressed me most is that I'm finally able to say what distance I like my dogs to run. In watching the GPS hand piece, I can now say that I like my dogs to run from about 50-100 yds. These 400 yd dogs are just not my cup of tea.

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#6894887 - 09/21/17 06:20 PM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: pharmvet]
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Wait until you get a 400 yard one that finds all the coveys.
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#6894890 - 09/21/17 06:25 PM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: bill oxner]
pharmvet Offline
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Wait until you get a 400 yard one that finds all the coveys.


I'm sure there is merit to this statement, but I really like to watch the dogs put it all together. In addition, the birds I've hunted these past 2 years would be gone by the time I got to my dog 400 yds away.

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#6895154 - 09/21/17 11:47 PM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: bill oxner]
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Wait until you get a 400 yard one that finds all the coveys.


I hear you, but I am too old and fat to hotfoot it 400 yards, up and down gullies, to try to get there before the birds leave the county.
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#6895205 - 09/22/17 07:06 AM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: pharmvet]
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Originally Posted By: pharmvet
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Wait until you get a 400 yard one that finds all the coveys.


I'm sure there is merit to this statement, but I really like to watch the dogs put it all together. In addition, the birds I've hunted these past 2 years would be gone by the time I got to my dog 400 yds away.


I like mine to stay in sight. I don't like to go more than a couple of minutes without putting my eyeballs on them. To me it's more fun hunting quail than hunting bird dogs.

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#6895219 - 09/22/17 07:22 AM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: pharmvet]
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I like mine to goto where the birds are whatever the distance as long as the travel back through to make sure we are all going the same direction.
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#6895276 - 09/22/17 08:13 AM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: pharmvet]
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A must have with the alpha is the fenix watch. You never have to take the hand held out to see the dog movement. The watch face has all the dog info right on the face. Direction and distance that way the hand held stay safe and sound deep down in your vest Best Buy I ever made.

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#6895294 - 09/22/17 08:27 AM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: pharmvet]
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You have to remember Bill hunts from a UTV so 400 yards is nothing. You drive to within a 100 yards and then walk up.
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#6895306 - 09/22/17 08:35 AM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: pharmvet]
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Oh no I've been looking at these. Thinking about upgrading my collar. I may have one soon.

My dog has a problem where she likes to range. When I'm in sight she holds her point well. Really well.
When I'm not around she holds a while and then runs through them. It started after putting quail on my property. We have 10 acres. My family would let her outside and I think she was finding birds by herself and learned to chase. At the end of the season she pushed a few coveys when I would lose sight of her and didn't know she was on point. Then I'd call her back and see quail fly by...
So this summer I worked her on a few wild birds. When she went on point I make her hold a really long time. Then walked in to flush and praised her. While dove hunting she did really well accidentally finding quail and holding well but I haven't tested her when she is out of sight....that why I want one of these.

Do y'all think it's worth it for me for this reason. The frugal side of me says just work hard to keep her in sight. It's not easy to do though she ranges really fast.

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#6895403 - 09/22/17 10:05 AM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: pharmvet]
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I'm just fed up with dogs that don't stay with me. Time off work, lease price etc are just too precious to have a dog that runs off over the hill while I'm standing in front of 200 yds of prime habitat wishing I had a dog with me.

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#6895406 - 09/22/17 10:09 AM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: pharmvet]
Wacm Offline
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That's a good point but then why do you need it ? If you keep your dogs in sight

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#6895423 - 09/22/17 10:31 AM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: Wacm]
pharmvet Offline
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Originally Posted By: Wacm
That's a good point but then why do you need it ? If you keep your dogs in sight



Thick cover and peace of mind

I once lost a dog for 3 days that had fallen into an old cistern. Got within 100 yds of her several times on day 1 but she did not start barking until day 3.

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#6895742 - 09/22/17 03:24 PM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: pharmvet]
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I have the alpha system and the fenix 5S sapphire watch to go with it. Don't know how I ever hunted without them. Unless you're hunting very flat and pretty wide open land, keeping a dog in sight the whole time is pretty tough. I don't have to always keep my eye on them to see where they are, if they're on point out of sight, it takes forever to find them, I can let them roll and do their job without hacking them back in just because I don't know if they're 50 yards in front of me but behind a tree or 1000 yards away headed in the wrong direction. There is no downside to them. Peace of mind is a great thing. If I'm hunting from an ATV they'll typically range from 200-400 yards, on foot, 200-300. I'd recommend them to anyone.
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#6895749 - 09/22/17 03:39 PM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: pharmvet]
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Yes I can see that. I'm going to get one.

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#6895832 - 09/22/17 05:26 PM Re: Got a Garmin Alpha 100 - observations [Re: Wacm]
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Originally Posted By: Wacm
Oh no I've been looking at these. Thinking about upgrading my collar. I may have one soon.

My dog has a problem where she likes to range. When I'm in sight she holds her point well. Really well.
When I'm not around she holds a while and then runs through them. It started after putting quail on my property. We have 10 acres. My family would let her outside and I think she was finding birds by herself and learned to chase. At the end of the season she pushed a few coveys when I would lose sight of her and didn't know she was on point. Then I'd call her back and see quail fly by...
So this summer I worked her on a few wild birds. When she went on point I make her hold a really long time. Then walked in to flush and praised her. While dove hunting she did really well accidentally finding quail and holding well but I haven't tested her when she is out of sight....that why I want one of these.

Do y'all think it's worth it for me for this reason. The frugal side of me says just work hard to keep her in sight. It's not easy to do though she ranges really fast.
Surely you would not correct her with a collar if you couldn't see her right? If you could tell she was pointed and then broke without seeing her how would you correct her? She might have been peeing or dumping. Hard to correct one you can't see. I've had some real smart ones that it took 2 people to break that habit. One to sit in sight hidden from where the birds were planted and me horseback. My buddy would have the collar control and my smart arse dog wouldn't know that. Sure enough he looked around and made sure the coast was clear and took them out only to get lit up like a Christmas tree by my hidden buddy. up Not sure if he ever did it again but I did ride up on him pointed a bunch after that when I couldn't see him for a while.
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