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#6893432 - 09/20/17 01:01 PM Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor
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been playing with Lapua 139 gr and Varget and getting good results.
If you have Varget , give it a try in 6.5
( I know H4350 is good but just in case you have plenty of Varget)

recent test at my range -

400 yards
4" AR500 target

.015 jump
36 gr Varget
Hornady brass, annealed on every load

rifle is a Cadex CDX-30, 26", with Cadex bipod, Leupold 6.5-20, Horus 27

wind: 5mph 4 o clock
3 shots from dirty cold bore (the group in center and left)

Ignore the other 2 splashes , those were from previous weekend in 20 mph/9 o clock

I use Varget for my .308 and 30-06, so this is a versatile powder for me



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#6893452 - 09/20/17 01:24 PM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: cabosandinh]
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I don't have a 6.5CM but I use Varget in 223, 22-250, 243s. Every one except 270. It's even good sprinkled on ice cream.
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#6893666 - 09/20/17 05:09 PM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: cabosandinh]
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fps?
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#6893678 - 09/20/17 05:17 PM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
fps?


as soon as my buddy return my LabRadar, I'll get/post the FPS

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#6893688 - 09/20/17 05:23 PM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: cabosandinh]
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Hornady back in 2011 time frame switched from 4350 to Varget for the 120gr AMax load. Now days not sure if they use powders available to reloaders at all. You sacrifice some speed but get less recoil. I do the same just with ARComp instead of Varget.
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#6893699 - 09/20/17 05:28 PM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
Hornady back in 2011 time frame switched from 4350 to Varget for the 120gr AMax load. Now days not sure if they use powders available to reloaders at all. You sacrifice some speed but get less recoil. I do the same just with ARComp instead of Varget.


that's interesting bit about Hornady ammo

you are correct on less recoil

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#6893845 - 09/20/17 07:35 PM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: cabosandinh]
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You won't catch me using it on a 6.5 Creedmoor when IMR 4451 is available. Look at case fill percentages.
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#6893896 - 09/20/17 08:10 PM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
You won't catch me using it on a 6.5 Creedmoor when IMR 4451 is available. Look at case fill percentages.


agreed,,,, just offering good powder alternatives when folks (like me) have a bunch of Varget sitting around

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#6894025 - 09/20/17 10:11 PM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: cabosandinh]
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If a loads performance is stellar why would I look at case fill percentages?
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#6894155 - 09/21/17 07:25 AM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
If a loads performance is stellar why would I look at case fill percentages?


Is it stellar all year long? Is it stellar with the rifle in all positions?
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#6894211 - 09/21/17 08:18 AM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: cabosandinh]
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So far from 100 to 8000 ft S Tx to NM Mountains all good
I will admit I have not it straight up in the air or straight down nor while shooting inverted prone but out the window or off the hood of the truck its awesome. wink
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#6894219 - 09/21/17 08:22 AM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
So far from 100 to 8000 ft S Tx to NM Mountains all good
I will admit I have not it straight up in the air or straight down nor while shooting inverted prone but out the window or off the hood of the truck its awesome. wink


roflmao

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#6894436 - 09/21/17 11:22 AM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
So far from 100 to 8000 ft S Tx to NM Mountains all good
I will admit I have not it straight up in the air or straight down nor while shooting inverted prone but out the window or off the hood of the truck its awesome. wink


Well then there's no need to change.

My point was I investigate powders for a cartridge. I'm well aware of Varget being one for 6.5 Creedmoor, and Varget is one of my favorite powders because it does a great job in lots of cartridges. I simply believe more consistent ammo is achieved with more case fill. One of the traits of th 6.5x47.
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#6894727 - 09/21/17 03:42 PM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: cabosandinh]
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I use 4064 behind 100 gr BT's in my 260, and that's a very similar burn rate to Varget. And I used it behind the 120's for a while. Super accuracy. I'd guess you'd get more case fill with 4064, if that really gave a fellow comfort. Research would be in order before I used it behind 140's, but if I got the accuracy why worry about velocity if you can adjust with the turret. That's what I've heard on the forum for years, from a couple of guys. And those guys are now talking new overbore calibers for velocity with 6.5 and 7 mm bullets. Maybe velocity matters....:-)

Just stirring the pot on a low day...

Kirk


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#6894805 - 09/21/17 04:48 PM Re: Varget in 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: cabosandinh]
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it has been slow Kirk and you know me I'm always stirring stir
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