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#6889678 - 09/17/17 07:54 AM How late is too late?
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Registered: 07/22/17
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Loc: Keller Tx
In a strange twist this year I was going to plant early due to all the summertime rain. Thank God I did not because the last rain I had was a week before the dove opener. So, now I find myself checking the weather app every five minutes in hopes of rain. I like to plant the day before there is a 100% of rain and it sure don’t look like that is going to happen in September.

In yall’s experience what is too late to plant and still have good plots for hunting season?


Edited by C&H OutDoors (09/17/17 07:55 AM)

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#6889748 - 09/17/17 09:19 AM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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I was caught in a similar situation a couple years back during the drought, I had to leave to go Elk hunting and returned around the 15th of Oct before I was able to plant. I doubled my seed rate and planted the day after I got back, didn't rain much for 3-4 more days, but I eventually had a good plot by the opener, really filled in by week 2. Oats and wheat don't take much to germ and grow pretty fast.

I wouldn't want to do this every year without question, but it worked enough to pull deer in.
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#6889973 - 09/17/17 02:36 PM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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I tend to not worry too much as to whether the plots are available for me to watch on opening morning but rather that they are healthy for the deer over the long run. That is what corn is for. I would normally plant this week but I'm not, I need to see the daytime highs not above the mid-80s and nighttime temperatures in the 60s.

When in doubt you can also call the seed supplier if you are using food plot blends. I use Whitetail Institute's products and if you call they will look at your local conditions and make a recommendation. I did that in that I'm using two blends that I haven't worked with before and they said that it would probably be two weeks given my current weather.
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#6890080 - 09/17/17 04:44 PM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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Ranch, what new blends are you using this year?

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#6890129 - 09/17/17 05:30 PM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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Prue Attraction and No Plow. The No Plow is going to be seeded into a completely prepped plot. A fellow asked me if I wouldn't mind doing that so he could see how it compared to the bare minimum work. Extreme is also going into the plots that run the length of my various senderos; this is perennial.
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#6890309 - 09/17/17 08:08 PM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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I don't want to derail the thread too much but I am waiting to put in whitetail institutes edge, double cross, and extreme in three different plots with a nurse crop of their whitetail oats in all three.

I was also asked to do a no till trial, probably by the same Person, so I picked up a bag of oats/wheat/clover/turnip/rape/peas at the local feed store which I will use for the no till trial.

Have the plots dirt ready, sprayed the no till and will take a drag harrow over them before I throw seed. Will do before and after pics of the plots and show progress of the growth as the season progresses.

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#6890600 - 09/18/17 07:20 AM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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Registered: 07/22/17
Posts: 30
Loc: Keller Tx
Buckeye; how many acres of food plot are you doing?

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#6890689 - 09/18/17 08:33 AM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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I will end up with right around 2.5 acres total give or take a few hundred sq ft. I don't know the exact area of the two no till plots I sprayed, but guessed each to be around 1/4 acre. I have formal food plot sizes of 1 acre, just over 1/2 acre, and just over 1/3 acre, then about another 1/2 acre in the two no till options. Next time I go it I will make a post detailing it all and telling the steps I used. I haven't done this yet since my last plot area I tolled this weekend got finished in the dark so no good pictures of the finished product.

Got a touch of rain last night up there, need a little more.

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#6890859 - 09/18/17 10:43 AM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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Registered: 07/22/17
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Loc: Keller Tx
Nice! Where is your place at?

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#6890952 - 09/18/17 12:05 PM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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It's in Oklahoma, close to Ardmore, straight up 35 about 1:45.

So weather is close but it is a little different from around here

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#6891053 - 09/18/17 01:45 PM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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Let's see. On the front end, as long as the ground is warm enough for the seeds to germinate, you should be fine. That could be well into late November or even early December. The back end seems to be the biggest consideration. That is, having enough time before the season closes so that you'll have something up and growing for them to eat.
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#6891106 - 09/18/17 02:33 PM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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the food plots will last all the way into march, so the back end is really a long time away. The front end says too warm, not enough water yet, and there are bugs that could get to the plants if done too early....The native forms will stay green for a while yet, so the plots will have plenty of time to get established prior to getting hammered later in the season.

Different perspective of the same problems.

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#6891213 - 09/18/17 03:52 PM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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We werent supposed to get any rain this month so I planted before the hurricane, using left over seed from last year, didnt do great but okay after no rain in 2 weeks. Saw there was a 30% chance this morning so went and broadcasted seed. Its been raining for 2 hours now.
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#6891395 - 09/18/17 06:35 PM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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No rain and/or ground moisture South of Bowie. Unless I get some good sub soil moisture before 10/15, I'll probably skip it.
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#6891838 - 09/19/17 07:13 AM Re: How late is too late? [Re: C&H OutDoors]
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Light Foot

Registered: 07/22/17
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Loc: Keller Tx
That's some good stuff rickym! If this weather keeps up I'll just have to water the plots myself. My brother has a striping / pressure washing company so I have access to large water tanks, pumps and their is a two acre pond on my property. The idea of watering approximately 3 acres of food plots, sounds like a lot of work.

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