Do you have any experience with Taurus? They make 1911 and revolvers (even ARs).
How’s the reliability, accuracy, fit and finish, the trigger, the customer service, etc.…? How do they compare to Colt or S&W?

I've had a mellinum pro in 45 probably one of the worst triggers I've ever had. Also had a PT92 (beretta copy) it was a jamomatic. Probably will never own another semi auto from them again. It think their revolvers are better though.

IMO they're not even in the same league as Colt and S&W.

If the price is right, they're a great option. I own a Taurus model 85 revolver (2" 38 special) and a Taurus 24/7 Pro DS in 40S&W. Neither have given me a lick of trouble. The ergonomic design on the 24/7 is excellent, and the trigger is very good for a striker-fired pistol. It doesn't jam and just generally never gives me any problems. Same with the revolver.

I have also shot a Taurus 1911 and a PT92, both of which were excellent.

That being said, their prices have gone up recently to where it's not much of a discount from the big names. The only problem there is that they don't have the same resale as the big names. So if you ever need to sell it, you are going to take a hit if you're paying current new prices. But if you plan to keep them, there's nothing wrong with Taurus. I did have one small issue on my 24/7 and customer service took care of me very quickly. Had the gun back in a little over a week repaired for free. I can't remember what it was, but it was pretty minor to the point that I debated not even sending it in.

I'm shocked your PT92 was jam-prone. I've shot a couple of those as well as the PT100 (40S&W version), and they were all fantastic. Just as good as the Beretta IMHO.

great guns albeit a step down from colt and s&w but catching up with their new ownership. much better QC now.

still great buy but true on resale value

I think i'll look at their .357 revolvers now since smith and wessons are stupid high right now

I have one of their 1911s, not a Kimber, but a good gun for the price

Yep tried 115gr and 124gr in it with a couple different mags it didn't want to run for some reason. It actually fit my hand really well and i prefer the frame safety compared to the beretta's slide safety.

Did you contact CS for the PT92 problem?

No, I have a weird OCD about me. If a gun fails me I get it in my head that I can't trust it and if I can't trust a gun it is no use to me.

I shoot a bunch of them; pistols in 25 Auto, 32 Auto, 9mm Luger and 45 Auto. I just sold conceal carry revolvers in 357 Mag, 41 Mag, 44 Mag and 45 Colt. Nothing to do with the revolvers just the recoil of the revolver with these cartridges vs. arthritis that is developing in my hands.

I started with the Millenium Pro series of semi-auto, the pistols that have been recalled. I was carrying a Glock 36 (45 Auto), but the stock just bothered my hand. I happened to pick up the 745 and liked it. Same compact size of the 36 but a better fit in my hand. End up, just for fun, buying Mill Pros in 32 Auto, 380 Auto, and 9mm Luger as well.

When I was looking at small pistols, I ended up choosing the Taurus TCP over the Ruger LCP. I also looked at the Kel-Tec version, but I do not like the lack of a slide lock on a pistol that I use for self defense carry. Where I found favor with the TCP is that it also locks the slide back after the last round is out, the LCP didn't. I bought TCPs in 32 and 380 Auto. My wife also owns a TCP chambered in 32 Auto.

I've owned some other Taurus models and shot many others that friends and family have owned. I also have a Rossi 351 5-shot revolver that is a 2", five shot conceal carry pistol similar to the Taurus 85 (and made by Taurus). I like it, kept it when I sold the other Taurus revolvers.

All tallied, I've owned 15 Taurus handguns and still have nine. I've never gotten rid of one without a bit of regret. I've shot tens of thousands of rounds total through them and have had, I think, five warranty claims that Taurus handled without issue. No different than claims that I've had with the other US manufacturers. I design cast bullets, so I do some very in-depth looks into barrel and chambers through chamber casts. I identified two nonconcentric chambers, the chamber slightly off alignment with the longitudinal axis of the bore, and they replace both without question. I can personally assure you that a US manufacturer is going to give the user a lot of grief with this as they think they know better than their customers. Taurus was "if you don't believe it is right, it isn't."

I thought so much of the Taurus Millenium Pro 745 (45 Auto) that when it was discontinued in 2015, I bought a new one. It is still in the shipping grease, in its case, in my safe should the first ever fail. These pistols have a lifetime warranty, but they no longer have a 45 Auto in their conceal carry line. It would be replaced with a 9mm Luger or 40 S&W, but I want a 45 Auto.

Taurus currently has a rebate on the Model 85 conceal carry 38 Spl:

• 2-850021FS
• 2-850021ULFS
• 2-850029FS
• 2-850029ULFS
• 2-850021PFS
• 2-850029PFS

I found some excellent prices through KyGunCo, Buds, etc., but the best price with all the fees was through Davidson's Gun Genie. Locally, I could walk out the door, with the Ultra Lite, all fees/taxes paid, for $211 and then get the Taurus $40 rebate. $171 for a 38 Spl revolver with a lifetime warranty is a crazy price! I was interested in the Ultra Lite as it is 8 oz lighter than my Rossi 351. The trouble is that I become attached to certain firearms and feel that way about my 351. The standard weight 85 could be had for $20 less!

I kind of thought the same but really made out on the revolver sale. My 605 357 Mag went for what I bought it for but the remaining three: a 415 41 Mag, M44C 44 Mag, and 450 45 Colt sold for more than I paid for them. Both the 415 & 450 sold very well. Both cost me $400 each, the 415 sold for $500 and the 450 $600. I sell all my firearms through GB.

I've sold two semi-autos and they both sold for more as well; a PT25 and a PT945. I bought both new and sold them when production ceased.

Here are my "black" pistols. Wife's TCP is the pink one.



My TCPs aren't really black anymore, I bought some colored stocks from Taurus.



I also did all the Galloway improvement to the TCP. Just bored and wanted to work with them, they don't really need a thing.

My revolvers that I sold.



That 450 was a hoss, wouldn't want it stuck in my face!

I'll never buy another Taurus. Their products are cheaply made, and their customer service was not that great.

My experiences have all been good, I have 4 model 85 revolvers and two PT111 9 mm's that have all been great

Expected that.

The only thing that I don't like about Taurus is that when a model is dropped, they don't provide parts support. So, that is a consideration. To me with firearms at this price point, I don't worry about them as an investment. They are simply a tool. When I buy a hammer or any other tool, I don't worry about selling it. I want it to perform as expected and my Taurus' have.

In 31 plus years, I've had ONE problem Taurus, and it was an owner who tinkered too much... the many others have been fine.

I have the option of several guns, and I like nice Sigs, but there is a place for a stainless concealed hammer lightweight 85 in the arsenal, or two.... they are indestructible, we tried.


Their small guns now, are as good as any in that market. Their customer service has always been first rate for us, the very few times it's ever been needed.

The best shooting revolver I've ever shot, including PPC/race guns, was a Taurus 66, blue 4 inch adjustable sights.... it was crazy.... sold it twice, but it ain't coming back again

Only owned one semi-auto and won't buy another. My first CC gun was a PT111 9mm...after about 100-150 rounds the trigger linkage broke. Got it repaired under warranty but gave it to my brother in law.

Those little TCP's look like a decent pocket gun though, and their revolvers seem to be pretty decent.

I had a Taurus 24/7 pro .40, and I still have a 608SS6 8 round .357 magnum.

The 24/7 went bang every time I pulled the trigger. But I didn't really like the trigger pull and I thought the action felt a little loose. Overall it worked, but I was not impressed. I sold it last year and bought a kimber.

I take the 608 every time I go to the lease, it's been a workhorse. When fired as single action, trigger is good.

I bought both 8+ years ago so they may not be consistent with the quality or prices of product being manufactured today. I haven't shopped around for one lately, but at the time I bought them I felt like they were a good product for the price. I'm still happy with the revolver, but I would not recommend their semi-autos unless they have made some improvements.

Ones I've had didn't like to feed consistently. After seeing a Taurus revolver break into 2 pieces no thanks. They even admitted fault and sent a voucher for anything they made. I wouldn't have trusted it but he got a judge to replace the one that blew to pieces.

They don't, but I have to say the little ultra-lite snubbie is worth the money if you just want a reliable pocket pistol that goes bang every time you pull the trigger.

Not a whole lot of agencies in the US using Taurus that im aware of. Probably good reason for that.

Sounds like Eastifer and his knife fiascoes

I’m not considering Taurus for self-defense. My EDC is a G26 and my pocket pistol is a Kahr CM9 and I’m not planning to change. BTW that CM9 has been 100% reliable and it’s more accurate than my G26.

I was considering Taurus for a range toy. I don’t have a revolver nor a 1911. I’ll probably go with a revolver first.
But from the feedback I’m reading here, it seems that it might be safer to go with a S&W revolver.
The below video isn’t helping my initial impression.

That is OCD. My Kel Tec P-3AT was a jam-o-matic when I bought it. Couldn't get through a magazine without a jam. Sent it in and I have fired 500 rounds without a jam since. It's my carry piece and I trust it 100%.

Because the government has tons of money to spend. And if they don't spend enough, their budget is reduced the following year. I don't base my decisions on what people with effectively unlimited budgets decide to spend their money on.

Im not judgemental, but experienced. The only Taurus I have had that was decent was a PT92. It was very smooth and accurate and I think they improved on Beretta's safety placement. That said, from what I understand, the PT92 is build on old Beretta machinery in Brazil, so that would make sense.

Kevin 1

That video is the same model I have, but mine is likely several years older. Between .357 mag and 38 special, I have easily put 3500+ rounds through it and have not had any of the issues shown in the video, or any other problems with it.

Having said that though, I got this gun because it was cheap, and it was an 8 round revolver. Usually not good reasons to choose one gun over another.

If the video depicts the typical quality they are putting out these days, I wouldn't recommend it either. Mine is 8+ years old, it's no S&W or Ruger, but it still works as advertised.

That's true. Beretta won a contract for 92FS pistols for the Brazilian army, and one of the conditions of the contract was that the guns were built there. So Beretta built a factory in Brazil and built a ton of pistols and then sold it to Taurus when the contract was over. I have owned both a Taurus PT92 and a Beretta 92FS, and I liked the Taurus even better. But I also like their other pistols too. What other models have you shot that you didn't like?

I'm a Ruger and CZ guy. (SR 1911, GP-100, Redhawk, CZ-75 and clones)

I only own one Taurus, the PT-111 G2 in 9mm and I am impressed. It has been 100% reliable with everything I feed it, not one hiccup so far with just over 800 rounds so far. No modifications, no tweaking, I just wiped it down and started shooting. Yes, the break point of the trigger at the very back of the trigger guard SUCKS, especially with large hands!

From my perspective it is a very compact, 12+1 round, $220 "get off of me" gun that I trust to bang without fail. Mine rides to work with me in my center console with two spare mags and spends the day on my hip or in my desk drawer.

Marc

I have had a PT 111 G2 for about 4 years, got it right after they came out. If they had given it different model number they could probably sell a heck of a lot more of them. The original or Gen1 from everything I have read about them was terrible. The G2 has been absolutely flawless for me and I have run RN, HP and a lot of different loadings from my bench and have never had a hiccup from it. Aside from the trigger I have no complaints. Even with the trigger, it is one of the pistols in my concealed carry lineup.

Marc, you peaked my interest. Checked the reviews on Academy's website. Not many complaints, and one guy stated he's put over 2k rounds thru his. Not one hiccup. That's pretty danged impressive for a $200.00 firearm.

Janie needs a new truck gun.

Janie,

Try one first - or buy a used one that you can resell. If you were closer I would loan you mine for a bit. The trigger is very different than anything that I have ever shot. The trigger isn't too heavy at all, it's just that the break is way, way, waaaaay back against the rear of the trigger guard. A very unnatural place for anyone who shoots.

It does have a nice short, clean reset for follow up shots. Initially I was shooting very low and left which is classic for trigger adaptation, until I figured out how to deal with it. Now, it is certainly good enough for a close range self defense weapon.

Marc

The G2 really isn't the second generation of this pistol; there have been four generations prior. First was the PT111 and then the PT111 Pro which went through 3 generations. The G2 is the fifth generation of the PT111. The original PT111 was slightly smaller and saw some cracked frames.

I have a Judge and a 1911. Never a problem with either. However, I have heard that taking the 1911 apart and getting it back together is a good trick.

I stand corrected.

The only Taurus I've ever had is my PT92AF. Bought it sometime in the early '90's and have put thousands of trouble free rounds through it. I keep it properly cleaned and lubed and it just keeps on running.

Other than that I have no experience with any other Taurus models.

Hey, Taurus' nomenclature sure doesn't help! The original PT111 looked more like their 709 than it does the Millenium Pro or G2. The 9mm Lugers suffered the cracks and the 32 and 380 Autos bring more than they cost new. Haven't seen one of them on the auction sites for about five years now.

Sorry for the delay.
I have owned a pt111, a first year 24/7 OSS,one labeled "total titanium" in 38spl, and a tracker in 357.

Honestly the pt111 was fine. On par with any other pocket pistol. The "TOTAL TITANIUM" would start losing frame screws every time I took it to the range.

The tracker was ok I guess. The bicycle grips annoyed me, and it never shot very good. Could have been me.

The pt92 was a winner. Maybe a fluke, but it was always reliable, and very accuratr, and as I said before, the safety was in the right position vs beretta

Forgot to address the 24/7. Same weird bicycle grips. Wouldn't cycle anything resembling a hollow point. It was accurate when it cycled and came with a bunch of cool stuff, but was never dependable.

Years ago the Taurus M82 was very popular as a truck gun, tackle box gun, bed stand gun, barn gun. It was a close copy to the S&W M10. I knew several people who had them and always went bang and accurate enough for dispatching armadillo, possum, and coon.

i'm going to market hall this weekend shopping i'll look at the new models of taurus

This is a copy/paste from my post back in September 2017. I eventually gave the gun to my BIL who is retired on his ranch - it is his daily carry. He reports 100% reliability under regular use.

Marc

My PT101 ran great. Wish it would start jamming so whoever stole it would return it!

I easily have over 1,000 rounds through mine. Not a single hiccup.

I have had a couple of their older revolvers over the years, and for the price IF you get one that has some good QC then I think they are worth the money. I’ve even used a buddies 1911 in IDPA about a decade ago, and it seemed to be nice for what it was, but I have definitely herd horror stories about their QC and problems stemming from that. If you can try before you buy a used one I’ld say that’s the way to go, but other than that I’ld say it could be worth the gamble to get one.

I keep hearing the taurus revolvers are smith and wessen rejects , I dont know how true this is but have heard it more than once

They don't! They've been nothing but a cheap knock off company since inception.

I've had three. The first was a Judge. While shooting it one day, the cylinder fell out. Yes, it just fell right out of the frame. I fixed it and got rid of it.

The second was a PT111 (I think?). Magazine fell out every time I fired it. I sent it back. Got it back two months later and the magazine fell out on the first shot. I got rid of it.

The last was a 22 revolver, don't remember the model number. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from the inside with door shut and the lights on. Sent it back. Got it back about two months later and the cylinder fell out on the third shot. I took a cuttin' torch to it and chucked it in the green box.

Done. Never more.

I’ve got a g2c with about 400 rounds through it that’s been flawless, and a Taurus Tracker 357 mag with about 500 rounds through it. I’ve been very pleased with both. I would have zero interest in buying a Taurus made more than 5 years ago. QC seems to be light years ahead of where it used to be. I’d still buy with caution.

I think that is what makes folks want them. Folks dont want to ruin a more expensive gun just farting around. But, from what I am seeing in their revolvers (handles perfectly just bad looks) is for a hundred dollars more I can get a smith. I would not use my smith as a hammer either.