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#6885333 - 09/12/17 03:12 PM AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE)
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Ok anyone that wants to give aging this buck a shot then have at it. This thread is mostly a spin off of another thread for Texas Buckeye to take a shot at but anyone else is welcome to try and age him if you want as well.

These pics aint that great because they are screen shots taken before I deleted my SD cards but there should be enough here to work with. I do know the age of this buck with almost 100% certainty.

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#6885340 - 09/12/17 03:20 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: JCB]
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#6885365 - 09/12/17 03:44 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: JCB]
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I won't try to give a specific age but I will say he is old. Mature if you like that word better.

He has scarred up knees, huge rump (rutted down in one of the pics pretty good) thick shield on his forehead showing years of battles. Thick shoulders and big hips. Just a big bodied mature deer. Sag in the neck line showing where his shoulders are big and muscular. big stains on the hocks.

Notice the lack of a deep brisket, because his chest is so heavy. Notice the lack of a sag in the back. Notice the lack of a low lying belly. There are other things that point to age in this guy.

As I mentioned in the other thread, there are a lot of younger deer that are going to get shot this year due to hunters thinking they are older due to these traits in healthy well fed young middle aged 3.5-4.5 yo deer (not saying young deer, but the bottom of the middle aged class). And then everyone will wonder where that age class went in two years...

the deer in the other thread did not look like this deer.


Edited by Texas buckeye (09/12/17 03:45 PM)

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#6885379 - 09/12/17 03:54 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: JCB]
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Are all of those pics from the same season?

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#6885391 - 09/12/17 04:01 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: DocHorton]
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Originally Posted By: DocHorton
Are all of those pics from the same season?


Yes. All December 2016 I believe.

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#6885392 - 09/12/17 04:02 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: DocHorton]
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Originally Posted By: DocHorton
Are all of those pics from the same season?


Was my first thought grin
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#6885393 - 09/12/17 04:04 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: JCB]
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Wow, its amazing to me what a deers stance does to make certain strutures look small versus larger...if these are all dec 2016 pics the rump looks smaller in some and larger in other simply based on stance and not being rutted down, unless he was running hard in December and your area ruts late...

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#6885396 - 09/12/17 04:06 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: Texas buckeye]
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Originally Posted By: Texas buckeye
I won't try to give a specific age but I will say he is old. Mature if you like that word better.

He has scarred up knees, huge rump (rutted down in one of the pics pretty good) thick shield on his forehead showing years of battles. Thick shoulders and big hips. Just a big bodied mature deer. Sag in the neck line showing where his shoulders are big and muscular. big stains on the hocks.

Notice the lack of a deep brisket, because his chest is so heavy. Notice the lack of a sag in the back. Notice the lack of a low lying belly. There are other things that point to age in this guy.

As I mentioned in the other thread, there are a lot of younger deer that are going to get shot this year due to hunters thinking they are older due to these traits in healthy well fed young middle aged 3.5-4.5 yo deer (not saying young deer, but the bottom of the middle aged class). And then everyone will wonder where that age class went in two years...

the deer in the other thread did not look like this deer.


Ok I will consider "old" as the correct answer because the truth is nobody was going to get the age of that deer correct.

Me and my Dad as well as a few other hunters over the years on our lease have had a history of this buck dating all the way back to 2007 when he was a 4 year old. A few years ago we thought his luck had run out because he developed what we thought was a large tumor in his groin area and was not looking too good. The next year he showed up without the tumor and looking as healthy as ever. We now assume the "tumor" was probably either a snake bite or some sort of infection caused by a cactus needle or mesquite thorn.

He almost always shows up in late September or early October but last year he didn't. With no game cam pics we assumed his age had caught up with him. Then just after Thanksgiving last year another hunter got some pics of him so I went and pulled my camera cards and had pics of him again as well.

As for his age......at 13 years old (last year) he is probably one of the oldest free range Whitetails you will ever see. I have cameras out right now hoping to catch a glimpse of him again this year. I saw him in person the very end of last season so I know he made it through another deer season.

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#6885398 - 09/12/17 04:08 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: JCB]
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Damn, I wasn't even close, Lol.


Edited by DocHorton (09/12/17 04:09 PM)
Edit Reason: wrong!

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#6885402 - 09/12/17 04:11 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: JCB]
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Originally Posted By: Texas buckeye
I won't try to give a specific age but I will say he is old. Mature if you like that word better.

He has scarred up knees, huge rump (rutted down in one of the pics pretty good) thick shield on his forehead showing years of battles. Thick shoulders and big hips. Just a big bodied mature deer. Sag in the neck line showing where his shoulders are big and muscular. big stains on the hocks.

Notice the lack of a deep brisket, because his chest is so heavy. Notice the lack of a sag in the back. Notice the lack of a low lying belly. There are other things that point to age in this guy.

As I mentioned in the other thread, there are a lot of younger deer that are going to get shot this year due to hunters thinking they are older due to these traits in healthy well fed young middle aged 3.5-4.5 yo deer (not saying young deer, but the bottom of the middle aged class). And then everyone will wonder where that age class went in two years...

the deer in the other thread did not look like this deer.


Ok I will consider "old" as the correct answer because the truth is nobody was going to get the age of that deer correct.

Me and my Dad as well as a few other hunters over the years on our lease have had a history of this buck dating all the way back to 2007 when he was a 4 year old. A few years ago we thought his luck had run out because he developed what we thought was a large tumor in his groin area and was not looking too good. The next year he showed up without the tumor and looking as healthy as ever. We now assume the "tumor" was probably either a snake bite or some sort of infection caused by a cactus needle or mesquite thorn.

He almost always shows up in late September or early October but last year he didn't. With no game cam pics we assumed his age had caught up with him. Then just after Thanksgiving last year another hunter got some pics of him so I went and pulled my camera cards and had pics of him again as well.

As for his age......at 13 years old (last year) he is probably one of the oldest free range Whitetails you will ever see. I have cameras out right now hoping to catch a glimpse of him again this year. I saw him in person the very end of last season so I know he made it through another deer season.


That's impressive. For anyone to guess a lf native deer to reach 13 would be loony. But, if you have the proof. That's awesome. And he didn't look run down or anything for being that old. Impressive. Are we sure he didn't have a twin son or grandson that is just playing the part? Seriously, I would not think a 13 yo buck could look that good body-wise...impressive animal!

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#6885403 - 09/12/17 04:12 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: DocHorton]
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Damn, I wasn't even close, Lol.


Can't win them all doc.. cheers

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#6885410 - 09/12/17 04:18 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: JCB]
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I was debating middle aged and old. Likely would have gone with a classic "mature" pinning down one number is just hard with no experience with the deer.
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#6885413 - 09/12/17 04:20 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: Texas buckeye]
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That's impressive. For anyone to guess a lf native deer to reach 13 would be loony. But, if you have the proof. That's awesome. And he didn't look run down or anything for being that old. Impressive. Are we sure he didn't have a twin son or grandson that is just playing the part? Seriously, I would not think a 13 yo buck could look that good body-wise...impressive animal!


I have game cam and video proof for all but 2 of the last 10 years of his life. Those 2 years he vacated the area I hunt he was occupying the area directly to the west of me and that hunter has the proof for those 2 years. If I didn't have all those pics scattered on countless memory sticks and hard drives I would post them in order for everyone to see. I may work on that this winter when I am at the lease and don't have internet access. LOL

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#6885418 - 09/12/17 04:24 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: Texas buckeye]
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Damn, I wasn't even close, Lol.


Can't win them all doc.. cheers


Lol. His face looks really young to be 13 and body looks to be in great shape. confused2

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#6885466 - 09/12/17 05:13 PM Re: AGE THE 8 (MOSTLY FOR TEXAS BUCKEYE) [Re: JCB]
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Did some digging and came up with these 3 fairly quickly.

First pic is him at 9 years old.

Second pic is him at 10 years old. This is when he had the groin issue. If you look close you can kind of see it.

Last pic is him at 11 years old.






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