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Re: Age this low fence 8
[Re: redchevy]
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09/12/17 08:46 PM
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This is a deer that will be miss judged on belly sag, how old do you think he is? Red, my guess is that is a doe based on the rise in the head instead of a flat head, but that looks like a older doe for sure...the gut hangs over the frail looking hips, and what appear to be nipples on the belly...so maybe she is still nursing? I have a few doe at my place that are still nursing in late august... But since you said it is a buck, I see frail hips, big belly over-riding the hips, scratched up neck which at this time of year would signify years of battle, and wrinkles of skin around the neck...would say older but I am guessing you are playing with me here.... You guess wrong on both counts, its a buck and he is 3. Well one pic isn't a fair game now is it? You setting me up to fail...I like it.
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Re: Age this low fence 8
[Re: redchevy]
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09/12/17 08:48 PM
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School me guys...what are you seeing that makes this a mature deer? I am learning the same way many of you have done in the past, so please educate me...I listed why I thought he wasn't mature, so please help me out Sag in his back, large shoulders, brisket/neck line, the look like he has a bowling ball in the middle of his stomach. Agree. He's 5-6...and as for being exact it's simply not an exact science but I've read a lot, looked at a lot of deer and based on what I've learned that's the age I believe he is. He is definitely a mature buck and therefore a shooter to me. I do not seeing him as a three year old.
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Re: Age this low fence 8
[Re: ChrisB]
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09/12/17 08:49 PM
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DocHorton
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How old is this buck buckeye? I guess 2.5-3.5. He looks younger than the one Redchevy posted. HF?
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Re: Age this low fence 8
[Re: redchevy]
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09/12/17 08:50 PM
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DocHorton
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This is a deer that will be miss judged on belly sag, how old do you think he is? Red, my guess is that is a doe based on the rise in the head instead of a flat head, but that looks like a older doe for sure...the gut hangs over the frail looking hips, and what appear to be nipples on the belly...so maybe she is still nursing? I have a few doe at my place that are still nursing in late august... But since you said it is a buck, I see frail hips, big belly over-riding the hips, scratched up neck which at this time of year would signify years of battle, and wrinkles of skin around the neck...would say older but I am guessing you are playing with me here.... You guess wrong on both counts, its a buck and he is 3. What do I win?
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Re: Age this low fence 8
[Re: ChrisB]
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09/12/17 08:53 PM
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How old is this buck buckeye? Has this become pick on buckeye day because the buckeyes lost to Oklahoma or because everyone likes to pick on me... He looks like he is either a middle aged deer or a really old deer that has been in a high fence for a while. Hard to tell off one pic. If I had to wager a guess, I would say he looks 4.5 but could be older. He certainly isn't any younger. But I typically place age into groups rather than specific ages. Too young to shoot, old enough to shoot, and past the point where it matters. The latter group make the choice easy. The first group make the choice easy. So it leaves with the choice of do I want to wait and see what this deer does next year or am I happy with where he is at now....and that is a personal preference I can't answer for anyone but myself. Study after study of people who know a lot more than I do, have said aging on the hoof is tough. Best to have pictures and years with a deer before having to make that call. If I saw this deer for the first time with no history, would I shoot it? Depends on where I was...lease yes, no questions asked. My property, no. No questions asked. Unless I had more history to know better (i.e. he was better last year or made no big jump from prior year). Hows that for an answer?
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/12/17 08:55 PM
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How old is this buck buckeye? I guess 2.5-3.5. He looks younger than the one Redchevy posted. HF? That picture isn't really fair. I'll see if I can find some better pics and start a new post.
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/12/17 08:59 PM
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I think everyone is picking on Buckeye because buckeye got big for his britches and was acting out
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Re: Age this low fence 8
[Re: redchevy]
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09/12/17 09:08 PM
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I think everyone is picking on Buckeye because buckeye got big for his britches and was acting out
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/12/17 09:19 PM
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All in good fun, it really is a buck that I believe is 3 yo also.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/12/17 10:27 PM
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/12/17 10:35 PM
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I think he was talking about the buck he posted and covered the antlers up
I swear that guy has nipples hanging like a mama tho....maybe he identifies as a doe??
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/13/17 12:33 AM
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Agreed. Old buck. Darn nice looking one too. Hope your Son gets a shot at him.
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Re: Age this low fence 8
[Re: redchevy]
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09/13/17 12:35 AM
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School me guys...what are you seeing that makes this a mature deer? I am learning the same way many of you have done in the past, so please educate me...I listed why I thought he wasn't mature, so please help me out Sag in his back, large shoulders, brisket/neck line, the look like he has a bowling ball in the middle of his stomach. Kind of like us older fellas. Just have a certain swagger about them.
Life is too short, as is. Don't chance it. Don't text and drive.
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/13/17 02:50 AM
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Did it taste any different than any other deer? Also do you tag it as a buck or doe?
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/13/17 02:53 AM
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Did it taste any different than any other deer? Also do you tag it as a buck or doe? Was a little more tender and less gamey than other deer I've eaten. Tagged as a doe, so I guess technically it wasn't a buck even though it had a pecker, Lol.
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/13/17 02:55 AM
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Did it taste any different than any other deer? Also do you tag it as a buck or doe? Interesting. I always wondered how you should tag a stag. Tags say buck or antlerless so seems like a grey area. Now I know incase I ever shoot one. Was a little more tender and less gamey than other deer I've eaten. Tagged as a doe.
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/13/17 03:02 AM
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Check with your local GW. I was always told it was called "anterless" and not doe for a reason. Antlered doe are tagged with your buck tag and button buck is tagged with an anterless tag if it doesn't have a hardened antler doesn't protrude through the skin.
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Re: Age this low fence 8
[Re: txshntr]
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09/13/17 03:05 AM
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Check with your local GW. I was always told it was called "anterless" and not doe for a reason. Antlered doe are tagged with your buck tag and button buck is tagged with an anterless tag if it doesn't have a hardened antler doesn't protrude through the skin. I doubt ill ever shoot one but good to know.
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/13/17 03:40 AM
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Check with your local GW. I was always told it was called "anterless" and not doe for a reason. Antlered doe are tagged with your buck tag and button buck is tagged with an anterless tag if it doesn't have a hardened antler doesn't protrude through the skin. This exactly. I checked with two GW because I had it on camera. Technically it's not a "doe" tag but an "antlerless" tag, so they are tagged according to what is on their head, rather than what's between their legs, Lol. No hardened antler = antlerless.
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Re: Age this low fence 8
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09/13/17 03:50 AM
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Check with your local GW. I was always told it was called "anterless" and not doe for a reason. Antlered doe are tagged with your buck tag and button buck is tagged with an anterless tag if it doesn't have a hardened antler doesn't protrude through the skin. This exactly. I checked with two GW because I had it on camera. Technically it's not a "doe" tag but an "antlerless" tag, so they are tagged according to what is on their head, rather than what's between their legs, Lol. No hardened antler = antlerless. Makes good sense. Damn tranny deer trying to make thing difficult
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