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1 Mile Rifle #6883502 09/11/17 12:02 AM
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A few of my shooting buddies have been shooting over a mile lately and it has me hankering for a 2000-yard caliber. What do yall think is the most sensible cartridge for that distance, as far as brass cost and availability, bullet selection, powder consumption, common or custom reamer, etc?


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Buy chads 7mm-300 and go play rifle


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Originally Posted By: 2Beez
Buy chads 7mm-300 and go play rifle


Not a lefty. I'm building my own.


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Haha yea I polished that thing for hours.
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bang I forgot you were wired wrong. My bad.


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7mm-300 Norma is what I'd build.


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20mm canon?

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338 lapua

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I've been crunching numbers for months. Even did last night at the Fire station. The absolute most cost effective cartridge is the 7-300, loaded with H-Retumbo, and a 195 gr Berger EOL. Trust me, there's not a more cost effective way to do it.

28 Nosler brass is very high.
.338 LM, everything about it is expensive, and it ain't all that at a mile, plus.
.50 BMG, and cases from it, aren't doing anything more than delivering more energy, and again at a high cost of components. Hell for .50 BMG you need a special press and very expensive dies. .300 Norma Mag loaded with a 220 gr ELD-X runs below 1340 fps (the real velocity to look for, for stability) 200 yards before the 7-300 And the 195 EOL.

Go dig for yourself if you think I'm wrong. smile


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Originally Posted By: dee
7mm-300 Norma is what I'd build.


It'll do it, with authority. Brass costs more than Win Mag.


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a 338 Norma is going to out perform the other options. The Cheytac family is to expensive and to specialized to keep it cost effective. 338 Norma can run fancy lathe turned solids of Berger 300's that perform flawlessly. My 338 norma is ridiculous. Pay attention to the time of flight.

if you were asking for a hunting gun, 28 nosler. Target gun is the 338 Norma


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What bullet?
What charge?
What MV?

And not everybody has your budget, you crazy Guinea.

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First off where will you be shooting? Altitude makes a difference in how long you retain velocity. Second whats your budget, when you start shooting at past 1k costs add up very fast.

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Originally Posted By: cmorsch
First off where will you be shooting? Altitude makes a difference in how long you retain velocity. Second whats your budget, when you start shooting at past 1k costs add up very fast.


I'll be shooting in Texas. Altitude is the last reason I would choose a caliber of rifle. If it won't stay supersonic to 1760 yards at sea level, I don't want it. I didn't include a budget because I was specifically asking for the most cost-effective cartridge for my intended purpose, and I shoot past 1k with at least 5 of my current rigs.

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Originally Posted By: cmorsch
when you start shooting at past 1k costs add up very fast.


Broad brush, there.

That's not entirely true.


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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
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when you start shooting at past 1k costs add up very fast.


Broad brush, there.

That's not entirely true.


No joke. I have at least 5 rifles that have hit that distance. None of which are good for 1760 yards.


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338's can utilize bullets that are hard to match in smaller calibers, although 7mm is a really sweet spot with plenty of options that will make it to a mile well enough. 7/300 WM is about the least expensive route. The 28 Nosler looks good. 7WSM will do it and held the best 1 mile group for awhile using 176 Cauterucios, but brass is erratic now. The 7 mm bullets are the best intersection of price and performance.

Among the 338's, 338 Lapua is the reference by which others are measured. 338 RUM is a less expensive route for a receiver and brass when it is available. A 338/300 RUM aka 338 Edge has lots of reasonably priced brass and R700 receivers and clones are abundant. Savage makes a decent affordably (relative term) priced 338 Lapua in a target configuration as does Montana Rifle Company.

For reference- 308 175 SMK, 308 210 Berger, 338 256 gr Warner. G1 .856, G7 .480 which will run 2900+ in a 338 Lapua.






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enough talk already,,,lets build this beeeeeech !!!!!

I'm pumped to see somebody buying new guns besides me.

Nightforce ATACR ????? or step up to the BEAST ?????

YEEEEHAW and no Tikka action !!! Whoop Whoop cheerleader

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Talking out your rear again.

ATACR is a step up from the Beast.


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Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
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when you start shooting at past 1k costs add up very fast.


Broad brush, there.

That's not entirely true.


No joke. I have at least 5 rifles that have hit that distance. None of which are good for 1760 yards.
Not trying to be difficult, but I think you're making his point for him...

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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Talking out your rear again.

ATACR is a step up from the Beast.


I guess I got them backerds bang

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Talking out your rear again.

ATACR is a step up from the Beast.


For purely elr the beast with it's .2mil subtension turrets would be pretty handy. Other than that I believe they are the same.


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First off where will you be shooting? Altitude makes a difference in how long you retain velocity. Second whats your budget, when you start shooting at past 1k costs add up very fast.


I'll be shooting in Texas. Altitude is the last reason I would choose a caliber of rifle. If it won't stay supersonic to 1760 yards at sea level, I don't want it. I didn't include a budget because I was specifically asking for the most cost-effective cartridge for my intended purpose, and I shoot past 1k with at least 5 of my current rigs.
If staying supersonic past a mile at sea level is a requirement, then that will narrow your options alot, as my 300 RUM barely makes it a mile at sea level staying supersonic pushing a 230 berger at 2985.

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First off where will you be shooting? Altitude makes a difference in how long you retain velocity. Second whats your budget, when you start shooting at past 1k costs add up very fast.


I'll be shooting in Texas. Altitude is the last reason I would choose a caliber of rifle. If it won't stay supersonic to 1760 yards at sea level, I don't want it. I didn't include a budget because I was specifically asking for the most cost-effective cartridge for my intended purpose, and I shoot past 1k with at least 5 of my current rigs.
If staying supersonic past a mile at sea level is a requirement, then that will narrow your options alot, as my 300 RUM barely makes it a mile at sea level staying supersonic pushing a 230 berger at 2985.


That's why it'll probably have to be a 7mm. 28 Nosler or 7 SAUM maybe.


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