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#6879743 - 09/05/17 10:19 PM 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy....
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I've owned some of all three, and the 221 and 222s outshot (bugholed) the 223s, both sporter and varmint bolts - so my question is this:

Is the 223 as good as the 221 and 222 re: accuracy? Day in day out, any average rifle?

Like to hear from guys who hunt with these, what bullets you use, distances, game, and results.
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#6879768 - 09/05/17 10:50 PM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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All depends on the rifle and ammo. 222 was the benchrest darling for accuracy for many years and I thing still a more accurate round than the 223. The little 221 fireball can be very accurate as well.

Of those I have never owned the 222 but have shot a few and they lived up to the hype of being accurate guns. With the Remington handgun I had in 221 Fireball sub 1 inch groups were common from the bench at 100 yards, cannot say I could do it every time but more often than not when shooting off of bags.
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#6879821 - 09/06/17 12:19 AM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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My 40 something year old Model 788 in .222 Remington is still the most consistently accurate rifle I own. I rarely shoot it any more since I caught the BRD a few years ago but when the .222 flies, something dies.
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#6880046 - 09/06/17 09:10 AM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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I had a 788, looked like hell, put 5 in a dime to nickel sized group like a Rem 600. Beat up stock and crown, I bought it intending to do a 6x45 like a fella did in an article in American Rifleman. Never did the project. They both doted on RP HP over H335 as I recall. The 600 took heads off turtles farther than folks would believe.....way out there using an 8x36 M8.

Kmon1 - had an SG&Y built 221, shot bugholes using Vmax 40s over Lil Gun.

As popular as the 223 is, would like to hear from some guys/gals that have some quality bolts, factory or custom that shoot well. Thanks for the replies above.
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#6880115 - 09/06/17 10:21 AM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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The 223 has a little more powder capacity and is typically available with faster twist. If you want to shoot at longer distances, go 223. If you want pure accuracy within 300Y, go 222.

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#6880118 - 09/06/17 10:22 AM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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My Tikka Varmint 223 is very accurate. Many 3 and 4 shot groups under 1/2", which is as good as I can shoot it. This target was all 4 shot groups. Barrel got hot on the bottom left group. I am by no means an expert shot.


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#6880215 - 09/06/17 12:00 PM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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What brand brass are you 223 guys using? And will 40-55s do as well in say an 8 twist barrel vs a 12-14 ROT? Thanks.
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#6880218 - 09/06/17 12:09 PM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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My opinion, the round is only as accurate as the rifle its chambered in. Some shoot better than others. Never shot a 221 or 222 but my 223 has been incredibly accurate for a very plain simple off the shelf gun.
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#6880313 - 09/06/17 01:40 PM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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What gun? Thanks.
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#6880314 - 09/06/17 01:40 PM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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Originally Posted By: 6.5BR
What brand brass are you 223 guys using? And will 40-55s do as well in say an 8 twist barrel vs a 12-14 ROT? Thanks.
55s will be fine in a 1:8. Don't know about the lighter stuff.

I am using Federal and Lake City. Hornady, Norma, & PMC did not shoot as well in my gun with the same loads that shot good with Federal and LC.

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#6880319 - 09/06/17 01:43 PM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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Originally Posted By: 6.5BR
What gun? Thanks.


Mine is an old model Rem 700 ADL synthetic stock.
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#6880369 - 09/06/17 03:14 PM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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Never owned a Fireball. I have a custom .222 bolt gun on a Sako action with a 20" heavy contour stainless bbl that shoots one hole. It was built by Performance Guns out of Austin. My .223 is a Bushmaster and it's also a tack driver, but not as good as the .222 (nor should it be on that platform).

I shoot 50 gr. Hornady Superformance V-Max bullets in the .222. It's my truck gun and I shoot culls, does, hogs and varmits with it out to 200 yards. Head and neck shots mostly on the deer, but if I have to shoot them in the body, behind the shoulder through the lungs does the trick. Very deadly little rifle. Hogs in the ear if I want to eat one, in the gut otherwise. Varmits wherever I can get a bullet in them.

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#6880896 - 09/07/17 08:05 AM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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Originally Posted By: 6.5BR
What brand brass are you 223 guys using? And will 40-55s do as well in say an 8 twist barrel vs a 12-14 ROT? Thanks.


The 8 twist will shoot the lighter bullets just fine...

and it shoots the heavier bullets just fine.....

Makes the rifle more versatile and I highly recommend the tight twist if you can get it...

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#6881031 - 09/07/17 10:09 AM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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Posted this before, but I guess it's applicable for this thread too. Is a 4 shot 2 inch group at 600 yards any good? Factory Tikka T3X Varmint in .223 shooting my handloads.



I don't have any pics of 100 yard targets, but no problem getting .5 MOA or better.
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#6881427 - 09/07/17 06:02 PM Re: 22 Centerfire users - let's talk 221, 222 and 223, Accuracy.... [Re: 6.5BR]
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Nice shooting, thanks all.
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