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#6862243 - 08/19/17 09:54 PM For you more experienced lifters
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My days of playing catcher in high school are catching up to me. On days I do squat and leg press I'm getting some soreness in my knees. Wondering if I am lifting my way into knee surgery or can I work through it to keep things healthy? What will this do to me at 50-60 years old. 30 now?

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#6863686 - 08/21/17 11:37 AM Re: For you more experienced lifters [Re: scot]
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All I can say is wear some sort of lifting knee braces that power lifters wear...maybe even ice them bad boys down after a good workout too. They will help on your knees some during lifts, but as far as over time wear and tear will always be there. Just know your limits as you get older and don't over do it. I don't squat way near the amount I was back in my 20's even though I still probably can. I know my body is aging, so I lift accordingly. I now wake up with pains after lifting days that I never felt back in my younger lifting days. I also stretch way more now than I use to. Takes me longer to get loose.

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#6864427 - 08/21/17 09:04 PM Re: For you more experienced lifters [Re: scot]
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Maybe stick more to hack squats.
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#6864436 - 08/21/17 09:08 PM Re: For you more experienced lifters [Re: scot]
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If it hurts each time you do it, quit. A least quit the squats, go lighter weight/higher reps on leg press. There's plenty of things you can do for legs besides those 2. Stair climber, leg extension, leg curls, jumping squats, etc.
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#6864616 - 08/22/17 12:59 AM Re: For you more experienced lifters [Re: scot]
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Try fish oil pills....It really helped my shoulders and wrist soreness after lifting.

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#6865356 - 08/22/17 04:32 PM Re: For you more experienced lifters [Re: scot]
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Almost impossible to hurt your knees; but it is possible to lose your "eye of the tiger"!

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#6920241 - 10/14/17 11:20 AM Re: For you more experienced lifters [Re: scot]
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Originally Posted By: scot
My days of playing catcher in high school are catching up to me. On days I do squat and leg press I'm getting some soreness in my knees. Wondering if I am lifting my way into knee surgery or can I work through it to keep things healthy? What will this do to me at 50-60 years old. 30 now?

This could be due to many factors but form is usually the biggest culprit. Hydration plays a role too the older you get. At 30 my question is why are you squatting unless you have plans of playing in senior league ball again? There are to many other adaptive tasks you can throw in and get the same if not better benefit. Traveling lunges is one in particular. Body weight and gravity is all you want if you do the correct volume. Externally loading with lunges is possible too but I recommend getting the actual movement perfected before externally loading with weight or resistance as balance comes into play. Split squats is another alternative. There are many variations.


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#6927131 - 10/20/17 02:03 PM Re: For you more experienced lifters [Re: scot]
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Squats aren't bad for your knees, typically it's how you squat that's bad for them. Shifting forward, lack of ankle mobility, knees going valgus. etc. My athletes and myself included always do a few sets of TKE's (Terminal Knee Extensions) before the first set and maybe the next 2-3 warm up sets, for the knees specifically. That movement helps warm up the VMO (vastus medialis oblique). It's the inner portion of your quadriceps muscle, which is basically the front of your thigh. The VMO is very important to train in the presence of any degeneration in your knee. If that's the case. There is a number of videos you can find on youtube for references.
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#6927432 - 10/20/17 07:11 PM Re: For you more experienced lifters [Re: scot]
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If you are able to record and post a video of a moderately heavy set from the back and side I'm confident we can find where you're going wrong at. My GUESS would be you are leaning too far on your toes and forcing your knees to scissor forward over your toes rather than sitting back. Another common mistake is letting your knees should not drift together on your way up. Force yourself to push them outwards.

I highly recommend this video. I also highly recommend switching to a low bar squat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs_Ej32IYgo

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#6928667 - 10/22/17 08:49 AM Re: For you more experienced lifters [Re: scot]
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Like Slack mentioned the VMO needs to be activated but proper form can only be corrected if you have the mobility to perform the lift properly in the 1st place. The kinetic chain can be an ugly mistress...

If you lack hip, and ankle mobility specifically your form will suffer until those components are addressed.
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#6953822 - 11/09/17 10:21 PM Re: For you more experienced lifters [Re: scot]
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I started having the same problems a little while after college. I started feeling the effects of heavy squats and leg presses. I figured it wasn’t worth wearing out my knees so I started running sprints instead. Sprints are a great leg workout. Riding a bike is also a very good leg workout. Give them a try.

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