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#6861453 - 08/19/17 08:43 AM AR-10 trigger suggestions?
Sigmund Offline
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Registered: 12/15/15
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I recently ordered the savage MSR-10 hunter (308) to replace my DPMS 308-T. The DPMS had a Mil spec ~6lb trigger pull that i was never happy with, but never took the time to replace.

From what little I've been able to find, it looks like the MSR-10 hunter will come with about the same trigger. And if it does, it's got to go!

I've done some reading/searching here as well, and I think I've arrived at a couple of good options to fit what I'm looking for. But just wanted to get some feedback from people who may have actual experience with these triggers.

My priorities for the trigger are:
Pull between 2-4#, preferably closer to 2
Reliable (works even when "dirty", not high maintenance)
Two stage
Crisp break
I can get it, and install it before September 1st.
<~$200

The ones I've found so far are:
CMC two stage 1/3 curved
LaRue tactical MBT-2S

All feedback and suggestions welcome, thank you.

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#6861459 - 08/19/17 08:47 AM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
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I leaned on guys that know more than me about AR type rifles. Big Fitz told me to borrow his Timney with a sub 3 pound single stage (I hate two stage triggers). I installed it, and on the first shot, loved it! No creep, crisp, very short reset. Tim and I worked out a deal, and I still have the trigger in the rifle.
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#6861536 - 08/19/17 10:08 AM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
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I have a CMC in mine and like it...but I like the Timneys in my other rifles better. P_102

Edit: they are not 2 stage.


Edited by P_102 (08/19/17 10:10 AM)
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#6861549 - 08/19/17 10:20 AM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
Cattleman Offline
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I like the Velocity triggers myself.

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#6861581 - 08/19/17 10:55 AM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
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I have the Geissele Hi-Speed DMR trigger in mine and love it. It's more than you were wanting to spend but I didn't pay full price for it...got it during a black Friday sale last year at Primary Arms IIRC. They also had a sale on the Geissele triggers so I got a good deal. Think it was around $200 shipped. They are normally $280.


Edited by MacDaddy21 (08/19/17 10:56 AM)

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#6861603 - 08/19/17 11:11 AM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
Sigmund Offline
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Registered: 12/15/15
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Thank you for the suggestions. The velocity triggers look good as well.

I guess i would be open to considering a single stage for this rifle, it's what I have on all my bolt rifles. My other AR is a rock river, it came with what they call a "two stage match" trigger. While I'm sure there are better triggers, I was pretty happy with it for a stock trigger, and the two stage just "felt right" to me for that form factor...

I thought I had read somewhere on this forum that the timney liked to stay clean. I am diligent about cleaning my firearms befor putting them away, but the normal use for this rifle will be at the lease, dirty dusty, etc. the only time this gun would go to the range would be to zero an new scope or load development.

I understand there are different standards of "clean" but reading those kind of remarks about the timney made me think it could be a bit high maintenance and maybe more appropriate for range/competition use?

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#6861658 - 08/19/17 12:17 PM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
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Only speaking for myself. My rifles are treated like a set of wrenches. They're tools, they get used, and banged up. They ride in the truck, in the tractor, on the Ranger, get laid on the ground, and get pretty dirty. The LR-308, with the Timney is no exception. It has not had a problem
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#6861718 - 08/19/17 01:35 PM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
Sigmund Offline
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FiremanJG, I'm generally of the same opinion regarding firearms are tools, and are treated as such. The extent of cleaning I do is usually just enough to keep things rust free and functioning properly. So hearing your experience with the timney is reassuring.

I noticed that timney makes a separate AR-10 and AR-15 style trigger. The AR-10 version appears to have a heavier hammer. Is this necessary for a 30 caliber AR? Or will pretty much any AR-15 style trigger do the job?

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#6861723 - 08/19/17 01:44 PM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
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I'm not real sure. Talking tools, I look at AR type rifles the same as a Sawz-All. I don't prefer them, but they serve a purpose. I use bolt actions more than anything.
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#6861873 - 08/19/17 04:25 PM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
Sigmund Offline
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Saws-all, crescent wrench, or channellock for sure. I figured I should have at least one (and why not one of each) in the toolbox? A toolbox full of only one kind of tool is often less than useful.

Been doing some more research on hammer weight question, answer so far seems to be "it depends". Read some remarks that the some of the 7.62x51 ammo may have a harder primer, and the additional weight is necessary to get it to fire. But there shouldn't be any issue when using "normal" .308 win ammo? Not sure if there is any truth to that, of just more bad information on the internet, or just a marketing plan for a particular trigger...

Anyone have any experience with a jard trigger?
http://www.jardinc.com/pagear/

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#6862403 - 08/20/17 08:30 AM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
magspa Offline
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Registered: 01/15/12
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I have the Larue MBT-2S and love it. Sometimes their on sale for $100. This AR is used mainly for hunting so the 2 stage is great for precise shots. Im sure a good light one stage would work just as well.

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#6862503 - 08/20/17 10:28 AM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
Sigmund Offline
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Registered: 12/15/15
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A friend of mine has a couple of AR's setup with LaRue triggers, says he likes them more than some of the Giessele triggers. He lives up in SD though, so I haven't had a chance to try it.

I like the price of the "I can wait for it" option, but I want this thing ready to go for a trip to the lease opening dove season, and I don't think I can get a LaRue in time for that without paying a premium...

At the moment I think I've narrowed it down to
- CMC 1/3# two stage
- Timney AR-10 competition 4#
- Timney AR-15 competition 3# (assuming I can't find a reason why this one won't work)

And all this is still depending on if the stock trigger is what I fear it is. I'll find out on Tuesday.

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#6862900 - 08/20/17 05:32 PM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
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I don't think you can go wrong with a CMC or Timney. I've got several of each (single stage) and all feel great, reliable and very easy to install. I also have several Geissele, the DMR, like MacDaddy stated is very nice. The low end Geissele 2 stage triggers are ok but I've noticed variability in the feel. The Rock River 2 stage is also nice and inexpensive.
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#6862939 - 08/20/17 06:26 PM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
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Larue MBT...$125 and some change. Once in awhile they go on sale for $99.
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#6863750 - 08/21/17 12:16 PM Re: AR-10 trigger suggestions? [Re: Sigmund]
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 520
Loc: Allen, TX
If it has to be a two stage... Check out the CMC two stage flat trigger. First stage is 1/2lb, second stage is 3-1/2 lb. If you live anywhere near McKinney, go to Runner Runner guns. They have just about every trigger set up so you can test drive.

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