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T3 Lite feeding problem #6860512 08/18/17 02:51 PM
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My T3 lite 7mm-08 action is smooth as silk and very accurate but the feeding is giving me the blues. I put a B&C Medalist sporter stock on it as soon as I bought it so I don't have anything "before the stock" to compare it to but it will not feed after the first round in the chamber is fired. It hangs up 1/2 way. Anyone know if this is common? Hate to order a 50 dollar magazine from Beretta.


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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem [Re: HuntingTexas] #6860517 08/18/17 02:54 PM
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If the mag is a steel mag you can adjust the lips to align bullet to feed straight into chamber .


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I took it apart ( the magazine )and straightened the spring bar a little hoping it just needed more tension but that didn't help.


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Are you using factory or reloads?
Over all length, both to long or short, combined with bullet shape can effect feeding.
If factory I would try a different bullet or brand and see how it works.

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I would think Tika would not mass produce a magazine that would not feed.
Contact the service center, tell them your story, they should have a solution, maybe a warranty magazine.

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Wonder if all is right with the B&C stock. If you still have the factory stock drop it in that and if it feeds well call B&C. If something is a little off with the magazine well and attachment it can cause feeding problems. That is if still using the Tikka magazines


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Maybe borrow a mag from an LGS, see if the same thing happens?


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Originally Posted By: kmon1
Wonder if all is right with the B&C stock. If you still have the factory stock drop it in that and if it feeds well call B&C. If something is a little off with the magazine well and attachment it can cause feeding problems. That is if still using the Tikka magazines
This is what I would do. Never heard of a Tikka feeding issue with the factory stock. If it feeds good with that, you know the issue is something with the B&C.

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Originally Posted By: kmon1
Wonder if all is right with the B&C stock. If you still have the factory stock drop it in that and if it feeds well call B&C. If something is a little off with the magazine well and attachment it can cause feeding problems. That is if still using the Tikka magazines


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First, the factory rifle is tuned to feed with the factory magazine. As soon as you change to a different stock, it can easily change up the relationship between the mag, mag height, and how it feeds. So, you need to adjust the height of the bottom metal to get it to cycle properly. If you are using the factory Tikka mag, it's not a mag problem. It's a magazine height problem. You will have to adjust this.

Recently, I did a parts build 308 Win based on a Rem 700 action. I had a Manners stock that was bedded with a Surgeon 591 action. When I built the rifle on a Rem 700, the magazine hit the bottom of the bolt and was rubbing with hard contact. I installed some washers between the bottom metal and the stock. This gave the clearance I needed for it to cycle properly. Problem solved.

My point is, the minute you add a new stock (or even a new magazine), you have to adjust the bottom metal or the magazine to feed with the new set up. It's gunsmith 101 kind of stuff.


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Like said before I think it's the stock with the magazine. I have 2 tikka t3 lites and both are great


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And, B&C stocks are not the most accurate on their inletting. Most gunsmiths plan for a little extra time (more labor cost) to adjust these stocks to make them feed and work properly. The several rifles I have built with B&C stocks were just like this. They are not a drop in kind of stock and expect everything to work just right.


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Well, so much for the easy way out. I'll check it with the old stock and see if it cycles. Need to get in touch with you anyway about the 5 rounds of different ammo deal you posted. Was trying to wait and see if I'm going to change scopes.


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I bet a Dr Pepper the issue is with the bc stock.

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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
I bet a Dr Pepper the issue is with the bc stock.

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I hate the look and feel of the Tikka stock that came with it but if it's the B&C stock I'll live with the ugly one that feels like cheap plastic. Don't want to spend a fortune to have the B&C corrected.


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Here's another test. Try putting one or two flat washers between bottom metal and stock where the action screw go. Sometimes if the magazine sits too high, the case body at its front 1/3 to midpoint will bind on the receivers bolt rails/guides when advancing the bolt. If this helps, you could install pillars +/- glass bed the bottom metal inlet to make the DBM sit less deep. If washer test makes it worse, then you may need to deepen the bottom metal seating depth. As a reference factory rear and front pinch (platforms for pillars) height should be close to
Front - .860”-.865”
Rear – 1.325”-1.330"

One magazine modification (for metal mags) is to widen mag feed lips along front 1/3 of mag. This allows the mag to release the cartridge sooner. For plastic OEM mag I suppose you could gently file the inside edges in that area

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In the back of the trigger housing, there is a metal tab that pushes against the rear of the Tikka magazine. Sometimes that metal tab get pushed in and when you move the bolt forward to put a round into battery, the magazine will drop in the rear causing the bullet to enter the breach at too steep of an angle. I had this issue with my 308 and B&C stock. I tried everything and once I pushed the metal tab out with a screw drive, the rear of the magazine wouldn't drop and the bullet fed into the breach like it should. I hope this makes sense!!

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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
And, B&C stocks are not the most accurate on their inletting. Most gunsmiths plan for a little extra time (more labor cost) to adjust these stocks to make them feed and work properly. The several rifles I have built with B&C stocks were just like this. They are not a drop in kind of stock and expect everything to work just right.
Yep, I had to work the the magazine area on the Medalist I put on my 260. Not a big deal, and I sure like the way it shoots vs the factory stock.


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Update. I put the original stock back on and I had ordered a new Tikka magazine that finally came. The bolt is not picking up the first round consistently and when it does it hangs up with the point of the bullet hung in the throat of the chamber. I'm going to have to take it to somebody that knows what they're doing. I'm lost and have zero mechanical skills sooo thanks for all the advice I really appreciate it.


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Sorry that this is causing so many problems and extra magazine cost, etc. Could anyone tell me what is wrong with the Tikka stocks that so many are replaced?? Thanks.


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