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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/23/17 12:38 AM
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Stocks are hard and "plasticy". I'm not sure if the aftermarket make it shoot any better but to me they feel better and look much better. May be one of those things where if the shooter is happier with his rifle he may shoot better.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/23/17 12:43 AM
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I'm in Lewisville, and if you want to bring it by, I'll take a look at it. I have fixed several rifles like this with similar feeding issues.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/23/17 12:55 AM
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Chad you are the one I want to take it to. If you can pm me an address and phone number I'll make time to bring it. Get you to work up a load too if your still doing that.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/23/17 02:18 AM
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Sorry that this is causing so many problems and extra magazine cost, etc. Could anyone tell me what is wrong with the Tikka stocks that so many are replaced?? Thanks. They're usually replaced due to want, not need. They're lightweight and fairly stiff, so they shoot well. But they're not the most ergonomic stocks on the market. I think the T3x vertical grip stocks are a small upgrade in this respect.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/23/17 02:46 AM
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They are flimsy but most work. Doesn't explain what's going on here. Seems strange. Something ain't right.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/23/17 03:35 AM
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Thanks, just seemed many people weren't happy with the stocks.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/23/17 01:38 PM
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A Tikka not feeding, with all OEM parts? First I've heard of it. I hope this is a moment when Chad looks at it, and has it corrected in 30 seconds. That kind of thing has hapened on my range several times. One of those "well, there's your problem right there!"
As far as the factory stock goes, I agree it's a want, not need thing. They're way better than the Tupperware stocks Savage ships. And I've seen lots of Tikkas shoot well in their factory stocks.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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I believe TexanTilIDie's tiny 600-yard group was with his factory stock. My T3x Varmint 223 has shot plenty of sub-.5MOA groups with the factory stock.
I disagree with Shaner that they're flimsy. I actually thought mine were pretty stiff for a factory stock, at least compared to the Savage I had before which flexed a good bit at times. I see barely any flex with a bipod up front in place of sand bags on my T3x stock.
Interested to hear the outcome of Chad's inspection.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/23/17 02:23 PM
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Donor rifle actions now, getting as bad as Remington
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/23/17 02:45 PM
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Donor rifle actions now, getting as bad as Remington Put down the crack pipe. James-Buzz-the cat man-Skinner. That's gonna be you. You're getting cats.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/23/17 02:49 PM
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I believe TexanTilIDie's tiny 600-yard group was with his factory stock. My T3x Varmint 223 has shot plenty of sub-.5MOA groups with the factory stock.
I disagree with Shaner that they're flimsy. I actually thought mine were pretty stiff for a factory stock, at least compared to the Savage I had before which flexed a good bit at times. I see barely any flex with a bipod up front in place of sand bags on my T3x stock.
Interested to hear the outcome of Chad's inspection. Yeah, its factory. I did take the sandpaper to it when it was brand new to knock off some of the rough seams from the mold they used, but other than that it hasn't been altered.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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Donor rifle actions now, getting as bad as Remington Put down the crack pipe. James-Buzz-the cat man-Skinner. That's gonna be you. You're getting cats. Sorry, I couldn't resist Meow
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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Mr. Saw, you need to get a few of those Tikka stocks and make them into scratching posts for your new kittens. But don't leave them outside in the rain, I heard they will warp....
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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A Tikka not feeding, with all OEM parts? First I've heard of it. I hope this is a moment when Chad looks at it, and has it corrected in 30 seconds. That kind of thing has hapened on my range several times. One of those "well, there's your problem right there!"
As far as the factory stock goes, I agree it's a want, not need thing. They're way better than the Tupperware stocks Savage ships. And I've seen lots of Tikkas shoot well in their factory stocks. Agree completely. In 20 years of owning Tikkas, 595, 695, and T3's, I've never had a feeding issue, or a factory stock issue.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/24/17 03:02 AM
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It's going to Chad Friday. It just makes no sense to me that the feeding problem got worse after I put the factory stock back on.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/24/17 07:29 PM
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The T3 factory stock has a pressure point in contact with the barrel about 4" in front of the recoil lug. This is what makes the forearm seem rigid when using a bipod. It doesn't seem to affect accuracy until the barrel heats up. Also just so everyone knows, Budd's sells Tikka magazines for a lot less than Berretta does...
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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The T3 factory stock has a pressure point in contact with the barrel about 4" in front of the recoil lug. This is what makes the forearm seem rigid when using a bipod. It doesn't seem to affect accuracy until the barrel heats up. Also just so everyone knows, Budd's sells Tikka magazines for a lot less than Berretta does... None of my 3 Tikkas have had this contact point. My two heavy barrel models did have to be sanded on the side about 1"-2" in front of the receiver to free float, but IIRC my T3 Lite was already free floated. Both heavy barrel models were free floated on the bottom.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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08/24/17 09:59 PM
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The forearm is reinforced with 2 "x"s and right between them is a raised lip that is designed to contact the bottom of the barrel. I don't know about the heavy barrel models, just the T3 lites. The newer T3X models may be different.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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I cleared that out on Stepson's T-3 Lite last month. Emory cloth, and 5 minutes got it done.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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Interesting. I will check my T3x stocks (Varmint and CTR). I know I can easily slide a dollar bill around with or without the front end on the bipod. I don't remember seeing anything like that.
I don't have a T3x lite to check, but I'd be surprised if that was a design change from the T3.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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If you like the way your Tikka shoots, I sure wouldn't take this little ridge out. It is part of the design. To the OP, the recoil lug can be tricky to install, and if it is binding, it can certainly affect the proper loading from the magazine.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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The T3 factory stock has a pressure point in contact with the barrel about 4" in front of the recoil lug. This is what makes the forearm seem rigid when using a bipod. It doesn't seem to affect accuracy until the barrel heats up. Also just so everyone knows, Budd's sells Tikka magazines for a lot less than Berretta does... None of my 3 Tikkas have had this contact point. My two heavy barrel models did have to be sanded on the side about 1"-2" in front of the receiver to free float, but IIRC my T3 Lite was already free floated. Both heavy barrel models were free floated on the bottom. Seems like something is wrong when people have to go sanding a factory stock to get the barrel adequately spaced from the stock. or go dropping washers between the action and the stock. And if this was on two rifles then it was most likely a common occurrence. JMO
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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Seems like something is wrong when people have to go sanding a factory stock to get the barrel adequately spaced from the stock. or go dropping washers between the action and the stock. And if this was on two rifles then it was most likely a common occurrence. JMO I don't disagree at all. Both rifles were advertised by Tikka to be free-floated and neither was even close. Both stocks tapered considerably just past the receiver even though the heavy barrels didn't taper much. Neither mod took more than 15 minutes fortunately, but I am starting to wonder about Tikka overall 'quality'. Of the 3 Tikkas I've had, 2 of them had very heavy triggers (crisp, but heavy). One of them was very light and crisp. A yo-dave trigger kit fixed the other two, but why is it so inconsistent? And now I'm finding that the mag follower on my 6.5 CTR will come out if you push the back end of the first round down too far... I don't mind too much since the guns shoot lights out and the trigger replacement is like $10 and the action is incredibly smooth, but it does give me some pause on overall Tikka quality.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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Tikka has increased their rifle production to fill all the orders coming in. This can't help but hurt their QC as they want these rifle shipped ASAP.
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Re: T3 Lite feeding problem
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Seems like something is wrong when people have to go sanding a factory stock to get the barrel adequately spaced from the stock. or go dropping washers between the action and the stock. And if this was on two rifles then it was most likely a common occurrence. JMO I don't disagree at all. Both rifles were advertised by Tikka to be free-floated and neither was even close. Both stocks tapered considerably just past the receiver even though the heavy barrels didn't taper much. Neither mod took more than 15 minutes fortunately, but I am starting to wonder about Tikka overall 'quality'. Of the 3 Tikkas I've had, 2 of them had very heavy triggers (crisp, but heavy). One of them was very light and crisp. A yo-dave trigger kit fixed the other two, but why is it so inconsistent? And now I'm finding that the mag follower on my 6.5 CTR will come out if you push the back end of the first round down too far... I don't mind too much since the guns shoot lights out and the trigger replacement is like $10 and the action is incredibly smooth, but it does give me some pause on overall Tikka quality. Free floated is technically the barrel not touching the stock forward of the chamber area. Many gun smiths will "free float" the barrel, but have the chamber area bedded (which I'm not a fan of, but some do this). Trigger from the factory is always set high. And if you push on the back of almost any mag follower just right, it will angle the follower up and allow it to come out of the mag- 100% normal. I see no reason of concern for a QC problem.
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