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#6858269 - 08/16/17 08:10 AM Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's
WileyCoyote Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 5140
Loc: The Dogwood Capital of Texas
does anyone have any opinions on either of these 2 SP's as far as a place to hunt...I've never been to either one, uh check that ...I pulled the last Bassboat to Fairfield from Carrollton uhh sometime in the late '90's looking to catch some redfish or stripers and got skunked...

I donated another $6 to TPW at the last minute looking for a GDA Permit...and see that Fairfield had a 12% success last year and Ft Boggy did not have a Hunt at all last year...oh well it's better than buying another 6pak of brewski's I guess.

What say the Peanut Gallery ???
Ron
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#6858379 - 08/16/17 09:51 AM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
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Registered: 10/22/07
Posts: 4527
Loc: Surfside Beach, TX
I made my first bow kill at Fort Boggy many years ago. I like the place. It is not a slam dunk hunt though. Deer densities in that area aren't as great as other parts of Texas. If you are into just staring at a pile of corn from a box blind, you may not have much success. On this hunt, you will have to work for it. A climbing stand works good there.


Edited by Palehorse (08/16/17 09:51 AM)
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#6858461 - 08/16/17 11:12 AM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: Palehorse]
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Registered: 07/13/09
Posts: 1969
Loc: Franklin, Tx Hunt in Panola ...
I have hunted Boggy 4 times on a archery hunt. On all 4 hunts, I either got a shot or had a shot opportunity. I have never hunted Fairfield, but it will be like FB. FB has a lot of underbrush. You really need a climber or lock on to get up over that stuff. Forget the corn. Find the acorns, you will find the deer.

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#6858470 - 08/16/17 11:19 AM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
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Registered: 01/25/10
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Loc: Mckinney, TX
I grew up camping at Fairfield and remember seeing deer around every tree.. it wasn't until I was maybe in junior high or high school did they begin the draw hunts and from that point on, we rarely saw many deer. This past November, we camped a week or two before the annual hunt and I may have seen 3-4 deer over a 3 day stay. Those sightings were up front near the ranger check station, but we don't see many if any in the camp sites now days. There's sign if you hike the trails as well as hog sign... just not what it use to be in my opinion.
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#6858530 - 08/16/17 12:30 PM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
WileyCoyote Offline
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Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 5140
Loc: The Dogwood Capital of Texas
Lottery Hunts are usually assigned blinds...Guadalupe River SP is the only one I've ever been on that had tower stands or ladder seats strapped to a tree. I've never been on a Lottery Hunt that allowed you to bring your own blinds unless it was a by assigned compartments that will not have any blinds furnished...but then I don't Archery Hunt and those Hunts may be totally different... as GRSP-Bauer Unit was initially..and is now all assigned ladder blinds as I understand it for BP Only Hunters exclusively.

OK then, FF SP & Ft Boggy sound like about what I expected. Might look/see what FtB has to offer and walk the area but if the undergrowth is like it is here in Dogwood City around the Brushy Creek area next to Davey Dogwood Park across the street from me...I'll need a bazooka to put a round thru the bamboo, pine & oak thickets for shots at more than 25 yards.
Ron
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#6858980 - 08/16/17 06:54 PM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
T. Mitchell Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 08/21/15
Posts: 6
Loc: Houston, TX
My son and I are new to hunting. Last year we had no luck in the draw but, this year we snagged a spot at Ft Boggy. Naturally, it is the one park I applied for that I know nothing about, other than it's location. So, I'm also looking for tips/info on Ft Boggy as well. Regarding brush and gun selection, are we talking .30-30 iron sights or .30-06/7mm-08 scoped?

Thanxx,

Mitch
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#6859019 - 08/16/17 07:16 PM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
WileyCoyote Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 5140
Loc: The Dogwood Capital of Texas
TM Wellll I got the Email about being selected for a Fort Boggy GDA Hunt...close enough to the house I can sleep at home. I'll drive down in the next couple days to see what's what and give you a shout about what I find.

I seem to remember seeing someone on here saying that you could get drawn with multiple Permits within the same category...TPW will get a phone call manana AM to check that out...but over the years I'v always entered more tha one entry in a Category and never been drawn twice in a given Category.

Good news is I only had 1 Loyalty Point at play, and if FtB is a bust out I didn't waste my 15 or 16 LP's in GDE on this selection...but haven't had a Selection Notice either.

As far as a shooter to use..I's think LOW power scopes & not more than 100 yard zeros, but mebbe somebody on site at the SP can clear that up. I'm going to hunt a T3 SuperLite 6.5 Swede wearing a 2-10x44...and bring a backup in a 7x57 wearing a 2-10x50....I ALWAYS bring a back up shooter.

Was in Buffalo this afternoon and came home up Hwy 75 to Fairfield to avoid the construction in Oakwood on Hwy 79...and saw one of the largest WTail Does I've ever seen crossing the hwy about 5:30 this afternoon, stopped the middle of the hwy and was confused about continuing to cross, looking back into the pasture she'd just left before scooting across into a thin wooded area as I got closer, running about 60-65.
Ron
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#6859101 - 08/16/17 08:13 PM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
T. Mitchell Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 08/21/15
Posts: 6
Loc: Houston, TX
Ron,

I appreciate that. I'm gonna try to get my son up there to do some recon in the next few weeks but, not sure I'll be able to make it before the hunt so, ANY information is a help.

I have to say, being sandwiched in between I-45 and Hwy 75 makes me wish I'd stuck to smaller guns. Ah, well, how else can you get experience, except to experience. I'm leaning toward 7mm-08 but, that's subject to change based on advice. The only rifle I have lighter is an old Carcano 6.5 milsurp. Not happening. That's what I get for concentrating on having a solid hog gun.

As for scopes, do you think my 3-9x40 will be okay there? My local range is max 100yds so, the max zero is not a problem. As a newbie, I wasn't planning on trying to match my brother's 300+yd shots or impress anyone with the distance. I just want to hunt safely and take animals as cleanly as possible.

As for points, last year was the first time I entered. 2 people in 4 draws, 2 GDA and 2 GDE. I doubled that to 4 GDA and 4 GDE this year. So, if FBSP doesn't pan out, I haven't lost many points. Based on your GDE points, I guess my odds aren't that good for a GDE this year but, we'll see. Hoping for Enchanted Rock or Colorado Bend if I get drawn.

Mitch
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#6859239 - 08/16/17 10:10 PM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
WileyCoyote Offline
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Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 5140
Loc: The Dogwood Capital of Texas
A 7-08 would be a good choice anywhere, about like my Swede or 7Mauser, but the 30-30 & open sights might also be a good choice too especialy if you are more than just familiar with it, based on what was said to me on another thread earlier by some stick&string guys.

Just noticed this is a assigned COMPARTMENT Hunt...that means the SP WILL NOT furnish blinds & the S&S guys were recc'ding a popup, ladder or tree stand but emphasized getting up over the brush to be able to see any distance.

Where I live in Palestine, there is a creek bottom at the end of my street and it is really thick down there...IMO FtB is gonna be just like that I'd be willing to bet. The outside edges will be the thickest, as no sun gets into the middle of a thicket, but the edges are where the sun feeds the vegatation, and you can find short "shooting lanes" inside a thicket.

Your 3x9x40 is the great American avg scope setup, and I bought a couple tad bigger scope's in the 30mm 2-10's for just this application.

If possible I'd look at the idea of practicing shooting offhand with PDQ see, mount, acquire and shoot tactics in one smooth motion...think rabbit/squirrels on the ground hunting with a 22lr rifle at 30-50 yards in the woods. I used to practice this when I first started hunting on some available COE ground by chasing a soda can or similar using a tube fed bolt action 22lr rifle at about those distances....and got good enough to use a tennis ball or a golf ball when I was Really ON. Ummm that was 50 years ago so scratch that idea for me anyway.

The bolt action makes you slow down, concentrate and develop a rhythm and I did better in hitting what I was aiming at with that rig than with my scoped 10-22 spray and pray gun.

Also noted in the TPW write up describing the Hunt details ...no restrictions on weapons ie mebbe a semi auto shotgun and slugs or an AR platform of some sort, and why the old Remmy 740/742/7400 series always sold best in Deep East Texas.... no caliber restrictions at FtB either.
Ron


Edited by WileyCoyote (08/16/17 10:30 PM)
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#6859274 - 08/16/17 11:12 PM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
T. Mitchell Offline
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Registered: 08/21/15
Posts: 6
Loc: Houston, TX
I could go with an AR in .308. If somebody said "hey, that place is crazy-loaded with large groups of hogs", that's the one I'd go with. I got it for range fun and hogs. I'd need to get a different scope for it so, that would be an opportunity to acquire a scope like what you suggested.

I have a pop-up but, also noticed the rec for high ground. Fortunately, I'm on a diet and recently dropped below 250 so, a portable tripod stand is now within the realm of possibility weight-wise. I have ankle problems so, I'm waffling on the idea of toting another 70lbs across an unknown distance of uneven ground though.

I must admit, I rather thought this would be another year of racking up loyalty points rather than actually getting a hunt. I was hoping if I got lucky that it would be one of the later hunts so I would have more time to get in shape and get prepared. I went ahead and put in for FBSP because it was relatively close and didn't have any terrain warnings that would require me to be in much better shape than I currently am. I can do this without the tripod stand. With it, I'm not sure just yet.


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#6859304 - 08/17/17 01:38 AM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: T. Mitchell]
bigtime Offline
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Registered: 09/14/09
Posts: 13
We got drawn for Fort Boggy also. Which hunt were you drawn for? WE were drawn for the Oct 18-20.

Mitch

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#6859951 - 08/17/17 05:23 PM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
WileyCoyote Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 5140
Loc: The Dogwood Capital of Texas
BT I am also on the 10/18 - 10/20 hunt schedule. Where are you located as home base? Gonna be lots of hunters on the ground with 50 permits & add on's available 'tween both Hunts, and using up some acreage with the Compartment Assignments.

The only good thing about pre sited blinds is that they will be sited with shooting lanes in mind. OTOH with the amount of tree's & brush I am expecting to see you probably could not squeeze a bullet thru the woods more than couple hundred FEET. Since hogs are on the Menu...depending on where the 1st session guy field dress anything they are able to put down ...that could become verrry interesting too.
Ron
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Remember Aesops Fables of the "Scorpion & and the Frog's" crossing the river...

... we must hang together, or we will ALL hang seperately, Ben Franklin..

Those who fail to learn from History are doomed to repeat it,Santayana

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#6859952 - 08/17/17 05:24 PM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
WileyCoyote Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 5140
Loc: The Dogwood Capital of Texas
BT I am also on the 10/18 - 10/20 hunt schedule. Where are you located as home base? Gonna be lots of hunters on the ground with 50 permits & add on's available 'tween both Hunts, and using up some acreage with the Compartment Assignments.

The only good thing about pre sited blinds is that they will be sited with shooting lanes in mind. OTOH with the amount of tree's & brush I am expecting to see you probably could not squeeze a bullet thru the woods more than couple hundred FEET. Since hogs are on the Menu...depending on where the 1st session guy field dress anything they are able to put down ...that could become verrry interesting too.
Ron
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Remember Aesops Fables of the "Scorpion & and the Frog's" crossing the river...

... we must hang together, or we will ALL hang seperately, Ben Franklin..

Those who fail to learn from History are doomed to repeat it,Santayana

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#6860167 - 08/17/17 09:09 PM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
lms Online   content
Bird Dog

Registered: 11/27/15
Posts: 262
Loc: Blooming Grove TX
My son and I hunted Fairfield SP a few years ago and could have taken shots up to 300 yards from the stand we were at.

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#6860256 - 08/17/17 10:51 PM Re: Ft Boggy and Fairfield SP's [Re: WileyCoyote]
rjd Offline
Tracker

Registered: 11/22/06
Posts: 882
Loc: Mabank, TEXAS
I have hunted Fairfield a couple of times getting in on stand-by. Shot two does there. One at maybe 70 yards and the other inside 50. There was a possibility of shots to maybe 200 at one stand, probably 120 or so from the other. Blinds were brush piled up or put around pallets wired together. One of the blinds I had was not over 15 yards from the road.

Overall, I would rate the hunts a bit below average from the draw hunts I have been on. Don't expect to see a lot of game, but if you are looking to put some meat in the freezer, it beats sitting at home.

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