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#6855341 - 08/13/17 10:26 PM Looking for help getting my son started in Trap
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I'm starting my last year in the military and making some plans for the future. The school my son will attend next year has a trap team. I've shot quite a bit of skeet, but I am unfamiliar with trap. He's 13. I'm going to get him started with his pump 20 ga, but want to make sure I do it right. Any tips would be appreciated.

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#6855384 - 08/13/17 11:58 PM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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Best thing I ever did for my son was sign him up for lessons to shoot with both eyes open. He has been very competitive in trap, sporting clays, and skeet, and continues to shoot in tournaments in college. That is a skill that will pay off for life!
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#6855662 - 08/14/17 09:11 AM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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We have a trap machine and are a very private place to shoot. Nothing fancy just pasture clay shooting which can be as easy or challenging as you like.

Located north of Terrell. NOTE I agree with the two eyes open shooting where you look style of skeet shooting and keeping your eye on the target
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#6855663 - 08/14/17 09:12 AM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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#6856321 - 08/14/17 06:20 PM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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Look online (ATA,TTA) for the next shoot near you and let him watch some of the better shooters. Watch their styles and most of all learn the routine. Younger shooters will catch the eye of most of the guys at a shoot and the help will be plentiful. If you have shot skeet then you know it is not a cheap sport. Get your son the best equipment you can afford and LOTS of shells. Make it fun.

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#6856521 - 08/14/17 08:47 PM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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Leon Measures ...WOW!!!! haven't heard that name in years
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#6857010 - 08/15/17 08:45 AM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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Obi Wan, don't try to do it yourself, get him started right., Where are you in N Texas? Elm Fork has several instructors who could do a great job getting him started.


About 55 years ago, I went there to shoot .22's with my Mom. the road to the rifle range was flooded (Imagine That) so we went around to the shotgun side. I had never shot clays., There was a really nice lady there who grabbed a 20ga semi auto and a box of shells. We went to station 4, I started "aiming": (one eye closed, like a rifle). She stopped me and forced me to shoot both eyes open, concentrate ON THE TARGET, swing about 4 feet ahead and pull the trigger then FOLLOW THROUGH., It worked so good !!!

I remember it like it was yesterday, so this is my suggestion get a "pro" and a lesson. "Uncle Joe" who is the best shot in the world shouldn't be involved.

Oh yea, if he makes the team start saving for his dedicated gun flag
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#6857839 - 08/15/17 07:19 PM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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You don't say where you are exactly in North Texas, but if you are reasonably close to Terrell I would be happy to get him started on trap at my club (rules, where to hold, where to look, etc). Free of course. If he gets the game going and wants to really pick up professional pointers then we have a couple folks, or you can then look elsewhere for the high level skills shooters.
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#6857995 - 08/15/17 09:24 PM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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Also - don't put a whole lot into the 'keeping both eyes open' mantra. Nora Ross, probably the top female trap shooter in the country, shoots with the off eye squeezed tight shut.
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#6858122 - 08/16/17 01:12 AM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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The biggest advantage to shooting with both eyes open is acquiring the target quickly. It's most important when shooting some sporting clay stands when the clay comes from a thrower you cannot see and you have a short time to acquire and fire. That's where my son beats me in clay shooting. Since I've been shooting doves for 48 years I'm almost afraid to try to learn, fearing I may not get my mojo back. At this point it's best not to think just shoot instinctively. I do swing on the bird and close my left eye at the last second!
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#6858185 - 08/16/17 06:44 AM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Couzin]
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Originally Posted By: Couzin
Also - don't put a whole lot into the 'keeping both eyes open' mantra. Nora Ross, probably the top female trap shooter in the country, shoots with the off eye squeezed tight shut.
Uh ....you are wrong you are talking about 1 shooter she probably has a eye dominance problem. I would say 99% of competitive shooters shoot with both eyes open. Please don't let your son fall into a bad habit like 1 eye open.
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#6858276 - 08/16/17 08:17 AM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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Gotta go with bentman (but I'd probably back off to 85-90%), shooting one eyed causes a loss of depth perception as well as peripheral vision.

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#6862963 - 08/20/17 06:40 PM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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Actually couzin has a point. It's not just both eyes issue but the mount also. Every instructor I went to would teach out of a textbook set of instructions. The same instructions don't necessarily work for everyone. Study the mount on the different Olympic shooters. Many have developed what works for them

As far as eyes ..... finding your dominant eye can get more complicated in some cases. For me my dominant eye gets taken over after I mount my gun. Took me years to figure this out

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#6862975 - 08/20/17 06:50 PM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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you can also put a piece of Scotch magic tape over one lens of his shooting glasses, this will force him to use his eye while keeping both eyes open. I think I stated this exercise wrong but you can google it or watch YouTube.
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#6863232 - 08/20/17 10:19 PM Re: Looking for help getting my son started in Trap [Re: Obi Wan]
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If you want to teach him to shoot trap, don't make him start with a pump shotgun. It may be novel sounding, but it's not going to be any experience to take forward. He doesn't need an O/U, but a basic semi would be highly recommended.

If you're going to get coaching, they can provide the POV on eye dominance, etc. If you do select the both eyes approach and he has trouble with "2 barrels", you only need a small, square piece of tape the size of his pupil placed on his shooting glasses, over the non-dominant eye pupil area. No full size strips of tape or big dots, all of which block periphery needed for locating the target.

Don't know where you live, but most high schools in the area have a Clay Target Team and an Intermediate team of 7-8th graders. My son is on the FMHS Clay Target Team and we had a handful of Intermesiate kids last year. We also teach them to shoot the main three, Trap, Skeet and Sporting Clays.

Check with your local high school if interested in team options, they can provide direction on all that's been mentioned. You do not have to be an experienced shooter to join, but it will be a time commitment to pursue.

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