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Game warden lessons learned #6852054 08/10/17 08:53 PM
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A few lessons learned as we approach dove season from a guy who has been visited on several occasions by game wardens. All experiences have been positive, so just sharing for any new hunters:

1) Always follow the game laws and assume you are being watched, they tend to show up out of nowhere, even on private property
2) If you are on private property and you leave a gate unlocked, there is a much greater chance you will receive a visitor. Game wardens will check gates and those left unlocked are much easier to drive their truck thru!
3) If you are on a dove lease, very good chance they will visit you - they know where the leases are at and they tend to be low hanging fruit
4) Always clean your birds separately. Don't clean them in one big pile
5) Federal Game Wardens seem to be much more thorny than state game wardens - they don't have to live in the communities they patrol. If they travel in pairs, you will see some good cop/bad cop stuff going on
6) Label your zip lock bags with your hunting license number
7) Always always always have a plug in your shotgun for dove season
8) If you hunt public land - SIGN IN AT THE BOX!
9) Having a copy of your hunters education card helps speed things along quickly. If you don't have a hunters safety card, the fact that you may be a military veteran and have served multiple tours in the Middle East is not applicably. Don't argue with them, take your poison and move on. I've seen a few guys try to make this case, and it just frustrates the game wardens. the law is the law.
10) If they check you in the morning and you have your limit, be ready for the "Where are hunting tonight" question!
11) If you drink a cold one after a hunt, don't be the idiot that is drinking it as he is driving off the property while behind the wheel.... They can pull up just as you are driving off....
12) Treat them with respect and demonstrate gun safety early and often - They are Great Americans doing their job....


Again: Most folks on this forum know and live this stuff, but figured I'd share in case some new folks are hunting for the first time....

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Re: Game warden lessons learned [Re: longgunner] #6852103 08/10/17 09:49 PM
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I take it Lesson# 4 & 6 is when hunting with others?

I haven't been approached by a game warden when hunting, yet.
But I have many times when fishing. It's always quick, respectable, and courteous.

Thanks for posting.


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One more thing game wardens like ---------- when he walks up to you, unload your gun----------- that goes a LONG WAY if there is some grey area that comes up.

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I was checked 3 times last year in 3 different counties in one month. They like to visit the outiftters fields. Prior to that, it had been 10 years since I had seen one.

Re: Game warden lessons learned [Re: longgunner] #6852558 08/11/17 04:56 AM
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You left out a big one.
Don't shoot Dove from a motor driven land conveyance, Includes while sitting on your truck tailgate or sitting on an ATV. This is a common ticket from GWs.

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Make sure your dog doesn't pick up someone else's cripples on the way out if the field if you're already limited the game warden doesn't discriminate

Re: Game warden lessons learned [Re: longgunner] #6852891 08/11/17 04:13 PM
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Curious on #10 - if you say you are hunting that evening, they can't give you a ticket for saying it and not doing it?

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Ok, I have seen this, and slight variations, mentioned many times over the years. What is this statement based on?

4) Always clean your birds separately. Don't clean them in one big pile

We have been doing this for years and never had an issue. As long as all the hunters are present, have guns unloaded/put up, and the total birds is under the limit for the number of hunters, what would be the issue? We all pitch in on cleaning, then split the birds up into separate plastic bags (with name/Lic).

There is nothing I can find on the TPWD website that mentions this, even on the page about processing game. Am I missing something, or is this based upon the fear that someone in the group might be over or have illegal birds?

Any First Person reports of being ticketed for cleaning birds as a group, without some other violation taking place?

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You cannot co-mingle your birds with others. Limits are specific to each hunter.

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Originally Posted By: Sniper John
You left out a big one.
Don't shoot Dove from a motor driven land conveyance, Includes while sitting on your truck tailgate or sitting on an ATV. This is a common ticket from GWs.


I still see people sitting on their tailgates or 4 wheelers even as the game warden is approaching them

And lock the gates, Warden will move on to another opportunity

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7) Always always always have a plug in your shotgun for dove season

I learned this one when my gun malfunctioned and I borrowed an extra from a buddy - no plug, and I never even thought to check. $186 - and that was 10 years ago, so probably gone up a tad.


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Re: Game warden lessons learned [Re: longgunner] #6852939 08/11/17 04:56 PM
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two follow ups:

NAK: We were once scolded by a federal game warden for cleaning birds in a pile. He said that they could not discriminate who's birds were who's. We were accused of allowing some hunters to shoot over their limits to offset others who had not. "Kinda odd that all of ya'll got your limit and finished at the same time!"

Regarding the "where are you hunting tonight" question: Lots of folks limit out in the AM and then hunt somewhere else in the evening. This is illegal. If you have reached your limit or are close to reaching your limit but will be hunting again that night, expect a second visit by the game wardens.

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Originally Posted By: ndhunter
You cannot co-mingle your birds with others. Limits are specific to each hunter.

I know two groups personally that were cited for this.....total birds isn't relevant....limits are individual....


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Originally Posted By: ndhunter
Originally Posted By: Sniper John
You left out a big one.
Don't shoot Dove from a motor driven land conveyance, Includes while sitting on your truck tailgate or sitting on an ATV. This is a common ticket from GWs.


I still see people sitting on their tailgates or 4 wheelers even as the game warden is approaching them

And lock the gates, Warden will move on to another opportunity


If they hear a lot of shooting you can bet that are willing to take a stroll to check things out.....

Originally Posted By: longgunner
1) Always follow the game laws and assume you are being watched, they tend to show up out of nowhere, even on private property


Originally Posted by Sneaky
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Actually, BBC is pretty damn good

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Re: Game warden lessons learned [Re: longgunner] #6856499 08/15/17 01:30 AM
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Might also add that if shooting collared dove and not counting them in your limit, make sure the GW can easily identify them.

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Originally Posted By: SnakeWrangler
Originally Posted By: ndhunter
Originally Posted By: Sniper John
You left out a big one.
Don't shoot Dove from a motor driven land conveyance, Includes while sitting on your truck tailgate or sitting on an ATV. This is a common ticket from GWs.


I still see people sitting on their tailgates or 4 wheelers even as the game warden is approaching them

And lock the gates, Warden will move on to another opportunity


If they hear a lot of shooting you can bet that are willing to take a stroll to check things out.....

Originally Posted By: longgunner
1) Always follow the game laws and assume you are being watched, they tend to show up out of nowhere, even on private property
where I dove hunt its 7 miles from the gate to the hunting spot, that's a heck of a stroll haha

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Originally Posted By: ndhunter
You cannot co-mingle your birds with others. Limits are specific to each hunter.


I'm calling racism on this one...


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Just be respectful if you want it in return.....

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Good information.

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Or, do like we do, and just invite the game warden with you to hunt! We know ours well, and he's hunted dove, duck and deer with us. We are in Stephens County.


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I've seen Game Wardens glassing folks from a long while off and then showing up at the end of the hunt when you are most likely to exceeded your limit.... Bottom Line: Follow the game laws and all will be ok...

Have a great season,

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this will be my first dove season. good info here, thanks for putting the thread out there.

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I don't understand why they want you to have your hunters ed card on you when the number is listed on your license.


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Originally Posted By: longgunner
two follow ups:

NAK: We were once scolded by a federal game warden for cleaning birds in a pile. He said that they could not discriminate who's birds were who's. We were accused of allowing some hunters to shoot over their limits to offset others who had not. "Kinda odd that all of ya'll got your limit and finished at the same time!"

Regarding the "where are you hunting tonight" question: Lots of folks limit out in the AM and then hunt somewhere else in the evening. This is illegal. If you have reached your limit or are close to reaching your limit but will be hunting again that night, expect a second visit by the game wardens.



There is no law against cleaning birds in a pile. He can scold all he wants to. But can't write you a ticket for anything.

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