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#6851550 - 08/10/17 08:36 AM Long Range Shooting
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I was just curious if any of you guys that have learned how to extend your reach past 300 yards effectively do so.

What calibers, ammunition and scopes do you prefer?

How are these guys making 600 yard shots when I can't even clearly see their targets with my shooting scope?

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#6851558 - 08/10/17 08:40 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: Chunky Monkey]
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Well...seeing the target is kinda important. I'd begin with better optics as a first step.
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#6851581 - 08/10/17 08:55 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: Chunky Monkey]
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Lots of ammo and target practice.....quality optics.......quality tuned hand loads to the specific rifle........quality ballistic app that you verify........caliber with good BC to carry sufficent energy minimum 1000ftlbs at the distance you plan to shoot.......just for starters.

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#6851587 - 08/10/17 09:04 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: Chunky Monkey]
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If you can scrape up the $$ contact JG Fireman here. Jason has a great and very affordable one on one class, teaching everything you will need to hit those long range shots.

What are you shooting now? Rifle, scope, ammo?
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#6851592 - 08/10/17 09:05 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: Chunky Monkey]
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Past 300 in a hunting situation or for targets? And how far past 300? Good glass is important but you also don't need to spend a fortune, same with your rifle. Good ammunition will make most factory guns plenty accurate to reach 500 and still hit vitals and many much further....but the biggest question, if hunting, is 'should you'? It takes a tremendous amount of skill and practice to be able to shoot game past 300, not so much when target shooting off a bench or prone.

As for specific glass, calibers, etc., that's a huge can of worms as most standard hunting calibers will reach out and do it with less magnification than many think. I would suggest to anyone that wants to learn, schedule a day with Fireman JG. Best $ you'll spend.

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#6851610 - 08/10/17 09:22 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: Chunky Monkey]
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What P_102 said is SO true. We watch these TV shows, showing guys and gals shooting game at 900+ yards. If you watch closely, most are gut shot, spine shot or hit in the azz. Nothing to be proud of . They are in the business of selling guns.

This being said, the rifles are high dollar customs costing $5,000+, the optics are $2500+, Range Finder $2,000+, properly chambered in the perfect calibers, 7mm LRM, 300 LRM.

300 yards is a LONG way, IDC what anyone says. Once you get to 400yards conditions start to take over, so you really need to know your gear and what your doing.

now THIS all being said, you could be trolling us and I fell for it lock, stock and barrel..... partyon555
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#6851611 - 08/10/17 09:22 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: P_102]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
What are you shooting now? Rifle, scope, ammo?


Right now I what I have to use is my Remington 308 and Winchester 7mm-08. Leupold scope, VX-3 I believe, I use a variety of ammo. I target shoot with a bunch of different reloads my dad puts together for me.

Originally Posted By: P_102
Past 300 in a hunting situation or for targets?


The is mostly for target shooting but I could see the advantage of having that "reach" capability but still keeping within a responsible range for hunting. So yes, this is specifically for target.

Originally Posted By: P_102
And how far past 300?


I'd like to go up to 600 if possible.

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#6851620 - 08/10/17 09:29 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: Chunky Monkey]
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I can sit at the range and hit 300 comfortably all day but that is pretty much my limit due to optics. So I was hoping to get recommendations on gear and then the knowledge of utilizing it correctly for really reaching out.


Edited by Chunky Monkey (08/10/17 09:30 AM)

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#6851621 - 08/10/17 09:29 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: Chunky Monkey]
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Either of those guns should work fine and easily reach 600 with as little as a 3x9 scope....just find the right ammunition. Chad @ Custom reloads of Dallas has very good bulk .308 or can work up an even better load for whatever caliber you want....then go see JG
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#6851622 - 08/10/17 09:31 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: Chunky Monkey]
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Seeing a target at 600Y, especially with a VX3 shouldn't be a difficult proposition....BTW if the target becomes smaller when you scope it, it usually means the scope is mounted backward.

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#6851626 - 08/10/17 09:33 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: Kevin1]
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Originally Posted By: Kevin1
Seeing a target at 600Y, especially with a VX3 shouldn't be a difficult proposition....BTW if the target becomes smaller when you scope it, it usually means the scope is mounted backward.


I don't know how you guys do it then because I have to squint at 300Y.

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#6851630 - 08/10/17 09:38 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: Chunky Monkey]
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Look at the Nightforce SHV Hunting scope 5-15X50. This should clear up your squinting problem. If you rifles shoot under an inch at 100 yards, you "should" be able to hit a 8" plate at 600.

Shooting form, trigger control, breathing, etc, is SO important. If you jerk the trigger your screwed.

I would upgrade optics and replace the triggers, IF you are grouping 1" now with proper ammo.
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#6851634 - 08/10/17 09:41 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: P_102]
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Originally Posted By: P_102
....but the biggest question, if hunting, is 'should you'? It takes a tremendous amount of skill and practice to be able to shoot game past 300, not so much when target shooting off a bench or prone.
Absolutely. I have 3 different rifles that I can routinely shoot 2.5 - 3 inch groups at 600 yards when shooting off a bipod with a rear bag. But no way in hell am I shooting at a deer under field conditions at that range.

So, to answer the OP's original question, you need the right equipment and enough practice to be competent.

For equipment, I want a rifle that will shoot a long/heavy bullet at a fairly high velocity into 0.5 inches or smaller at 100 yards. Then you'll need a clear and durable scope with accurate adjustments and enough magnification to see your hits at whatever distance you're shooting.

Then you'll need to practice. And going out and shooting 10 rounds isn't really practice. Think more towards 50+ rounds in a session.

The GF shooting my 260 at 500 yards last Saturday. Her first time to shoot that far, and first time to shoot this rifle. She was getting 3.5 - 4 inch groups.
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#6851646 - 08/10/17 09:50 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: Chunky Monkey]
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To clarify: A 3x9 is enough to see the target but not enough to see if you are hitting it (at least if you're shooting paper). That may be your problem or perhaps the wind or other conditions. Also, it's doubtful you can 'shoot small' if you're shooting different loads in the same session. P_102
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#6851655 - 08/10/17 09:54 AM Re: Long Range Shooting [Re: P_102]
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Originally Posted By: P_102
To clarify: A 3x9 is enough to see the target but not enough to see if you are hitting it (at least if you're shooting paper). That may be your problem or perhaps the wind or other conditions. Also, it's doubtful you can 'shoot small' if you're shooting different loads in the same session. P_102


Yes, I should have clarified that too. I was referring to seeing where I am hitting.

So, I guess the next question would be is what is your recommended target for being able to see your hits at 400Y+

The number 1 thing bogging me down is being able to see. I can start to figure the other stuff out if I can see where I am hitting.


Edited by Chunky Monkey (08/10/17 09:58 AM)

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