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#6848723 - 08/07/17 05:10 PM Shotgun Patterning
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What is the PROPER way to pattern a shotgun?
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#6848817 - 08/07/17 06:17 PM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Use the ammo you'll be actually using & shoot @ the most common distance you'll actually be shooting @.
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#6848839 - 08/07/17 06:35 PM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Yes on the ammo, best to pattern at various distances with various chokes. Elm Fork used to have a steel pattern board that you painted, just like at Jasons, no idea if it's still there. A more proper pattern target would have circles, maybe 6", 12", 18" etc. so you could figure % of shot in each circle, etc. Briley has (or used to have) several charts on their site, good information.

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#6848875 - 08/07/17 07:11 PM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: Buzzsaw]
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so you put target up (I have some pattering targets) shoulder gun and "aim" at clay in center, shoot.

Then see if pellets are evenly spread around center?
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#6848878 - 08/07/17 07:15 PM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
so you put target up (I have some pattering targets) shoulder gun and "aim" at clay in center, shoot.

Then see if pellets are evenly spread around center?


Yes. Shoot different loads with different chokes until you get the most consistent pattern inside the patterning board. Most shotgunners pattern their guns at 30 yards. I did this with all of my shotguns 3 years ago and I was surprised that some guns and choke tubes clearly prefer certain shells.
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#6848990 - 08/07/17 08:41 PM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Over on the Shotgun Forum, this one guy swears the new Benelli Super Black Eagle III shoots a foot high
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#6849006 - 08/07/17 08:54 PM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Buy different ammo, point shotgun, shoot and see which one patterns best
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#6849039 - 08/07/17 09:20 PM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: SapperTitan]
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Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
Buy different ammo, point shotgun, shoot and see which one patterns best


With different choke tubes.
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#6849047 - 08/07/17 09:27 PM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
Buy different ammo, point shotgun, shoot and see which one patterns best


With different choke tubes.

Dove/Quail = imp. cyl.
Duck/Pheasant = modified
Turkey/Geese = full
Works pretty well.
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#6849073 - 08/07/17 09:53 PM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: LFD2037]
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Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
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Buy different ammo, point shotgun, shoot and see which one patterns best


With different choke tubes.

Dove/Quail = imp. cyl.
Duck/Pheasant = modified
Turkey/Geese = full
Works pretty well.

I use modified for everything including hogs with buckshot
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#6849129 - 08/07/17 11:01 PM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: Buzzsaw]
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/pattern_shotgun.htm

http://www.wildfowlmag.com/tactics/shotgun-patterning-tips-more-kills-this-season/

Lot of not so great information given above...here are two good reads...the first telling you the how and the second telling you how to get the effective killing percentages.
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#6849173 - 08/08/17 03:14 AM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Buzz, it's highly possible that a shotgun can shoot high or low, depending on stock fit. Shoulder your gun, eyes closed, then open them...you should be looking straight down the rib and seeing very little (almost none) of it, (it you have a center bead, it and the front bead should almost make a 'snowman') the more rib you se, the higher your gun will shoot. The opposite for shooting low, though most will subconsciously raise their head to the proper height so they can see the front bead.

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#6849238 - 08/08/17 07:35 AM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: Buzzsaw]
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thanks everyone
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#6849323 - 08/08/17 09:10 AM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Once upon a time when it was very important to me, I used the pattern board on West Davis just the other side of the old YelloBelly drag strip as you drive into Grand Prairie from Loop 12.

The reason was it was the very best peice of equipment in Dallas for that exact purpose. It had a 4x4 or 6x6 frame with a roll of white butcher paper hidden behind and protected from errant shot by a board, that you pulled into position and took the shot from a known distance marked at 20, 25, 30, 40 and 50 yards with concrete pavers. You could put target pasters up to use for a Point of Aim for an impact check.

In those days I was primarily a dedicated waterfowl hunter and was shooting the 1st of several Wingmaster 870 3"mags with the fixed chokes of the day, some got "tuned " by grinding the choke a scootch more open or jug choking behind the choke constriction to tighten the factory choke.

I also learned to load 3" copper #4's that would give me 94-96% patterns by hole counts at over 40 yards, which is the Standard Distance & Method for measuring pattern %'s in a 30" circle from Center...I was using Cream of Wheat for filler in those pre poly dust filler & Mandatory Steel Shot required days ...that load was devasting on pass shooting the hyper spooky puddle ducks at several area lakes, and frequently would give me body hit pass thru's on Wood Duck sized birds and break wing sockets & back bones without tearing up a lot of meat. Great on Turkey too.

This kind of ammo x's choke tuning takes a lot of time that I don't see or hear about folks doing anymore. Trust me when I say that more than a box of hot 3" loads shot from a locked breach shotgun, seated in a normal field rifle position for exact accuracy in POA will leave more than a gentle mark on you...but I got clean kills at lots more distance than everybody I hunted with too....just love the head dropped at pattern impacts & splash landings for sure. Ya'll'ed be really surprised at the pattern changes from seemingly minor component changes too ...and YES I really am that anal when it comes to hunting with accurate ammo...even today 40 odd years later.
Ron
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#6849570 - 08/08/17 01:44 PM Re: Shotgun Patterning [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I drew life size pattern of a turkey on large cardboard, stepped off 30 paces shot off a rest, then at 40 paces, really makes a difference when you know how each shotgun patterns.
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