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#6846541 - 08/05/17 04:06 PM 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor
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140's shoot good, any reason to try 130's in an 8 twist? confused2
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#6846584 - 08/05/17 04:39 PM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Velocity. Everyone loves accuracy and downplay velocity, but then they push the caliber as hard as they can. The reason is likely that big BC at 2700 fps is good, but that same BC at 2900 or 3k is mo betta.

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#6846640 - 08/05/17 05:45 PM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I will just shoot my 6.5 Weatherby if I need to go that fast, but I get your point.
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#6846665 - 08/05/17 06:02 PM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Only if you want to wear out the barrel quicker. If the 140's shoot, roll with them.
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#6846784 - 08/05/17 08:07 PM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: Judd]
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Only if you want to wear out the barrel quicker. If the 140's shoot, roll with them.


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#6846785 - 08/05/17 08:08 PM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Wears me out when people find a load, then want to keep messing with it.

How bout, go shoot the damn thing, with the load you found, and become a better Rifleman. Enjoy the fact the work is over.
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#6846868 - 08/05/17 09:15 PM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: Buzzsaw]
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So I am running 123's in a 6.5 Creedmoor with 36.8gr of AR Comp at 2875fps so how many more rounds will I get roughly before my barrel goes if I were to switch to the commonly used 42gr of H4350 pushing the 140 at 2800fps? Just curious.


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#6846910 - 08/05/17 09:54 PM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Mine runs 2816 fps shooting 130 with a 21.5" barrel

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#6847137 - 08/06/17 09:27 AM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
So I am running 123's in a 6.5 Creedmoor with 36.8gr of AR Comp at 2875fps so how many more rounds will I get roughly before my barrel goes if I were to switch to the commonly used 42gr of H4350 pushing the 140 at 2800fps? Just curious.


An additional 300-800 rounds.
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#6847264 - 08/06/17 12:15 PM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
So I am running 123's in a 6.5 Creedmoor with 36.8gr of AR Comp at 2875fps so how many more rounds will I get roughly before my barrel goes if I were to switch to the commonly used 42gr of H4350 pushing the 140 at 2800fps? Just curious.


An additional 300-800 rounds.


Hmmm. It just seems to me that a load running 5 more grains of powder at 5000PSI (approximately)more pressure with very little change in velocity would be just as hard on a barrel if not worse.

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#6847670 - 08/06/17 07:34 PM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
So I am running 123's in a 6.5 Creedmoor with 36.8gr of AR Comp at 2875fps so how many more rounds will I get roughly before my barrel goes if I were to switch to the commonly used 42gr of H4350 pushing the 140 at 2800fps? Just curious.


Yeah, that's a smaller charge with about the same velocity. It's not a hard load by any means. I'd estimate that the lighter load would give you more rounds, since it's less powder. But it is a faster burning powder. I'd say it's about a wash. I wouldn't worry about barrel life shooting either load.
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#6851653 - 08/10/17 09:52 AM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Wears me out when people find a load, then want to keep messing with it.

How bout, go shoot the damn thing, with the load you found, and become a better Rifleman. Enjoy the fact the work is over.


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#6851774 - 08/10/17 11:45 AM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: Buzzsaw]
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OP - hard to find a game bullet not good in 6.5, from 120 and up.

I have killed with my 6.5x55s, 260 with 120 Corelokts thru 130 AB.

The 55s really liked the 140s..that said, I have had a K1A Ruger shoot 1.1" at 200 yds with 130 NAB and wax a Buck at around 250-275. Most game IMHO is shot within distances that the BC diff is moot. Shot placement is always key. The 130 Berger is a bullet with a great record on game in the 47 Lapua. No reason why it and the 130 AB are discounted, BC's are plenty. I see the 120 BTs, 129/130s and 140s and others in between as all viable and highly capable on game to most sane ranges if accurate in your rifle.

To me, personally, shy of shooting very long distances, I feel the short action 6.5s are VERY well suited for 120-130s. I know this will get flack from many, who love BC/SD and heavy bullets. Trust me, I appreciate them too.

Drilled both shoulders of an 8pt buck at 100 yds with a 260 in a custom Borden Alpine...if anything the rifle was overkill for such a shot. At 200yd, it shot .5"....another rifle at that distance shot 1-1.25 consistently in putting the first 2 in the same hole, group after group. A Sako 75 GW. Also a 260. Also 130 NAB.

Use what works in your rifle, I don't chase speeds but in the 47 and CM one might have to push pressures hard to get speeds to one's expectations, with 140s. I see no need. I am happy with 130s - and for the record, my go to in 6.5 for game - is the Accubond, 130. Kills near and far, accurate....

Good hunting folks, many ways to reach ones endpoint. FWIW, MANY deer have dropped with 100 BTs and PTs from 260s and similar, even the Hornady 100 SP. I shot many thru a 6.5-308 before Rem did the Saami, and a buddy shot the 100 BT also in his 6.5BR in an MOA carbine...cloverleafs. Personally, these days I like to start with 120s in 6.5 as from there up you get a nice BC. I do have one exception when it comes to using sub 120s on deer/hogs. The Barnes 100 TTSX might be a helluva bullet for the small 6.5s, at most common ranges wink Light? Sure. Fast? Sure. Mono - yep, won't blow apart on close shots, and should work fine to many common ranges, I would probably do test from 300-400 yds to determine expansion to know how far I want to shoot it.

Note, Long ago, MANY deer were shot at a GOOD Distance, including larger game ie. in Africa, using a 6.5 JDJ in a TC handgun, at around 2500 mv, bullet? 120 Speer and NBT.

Lastly, a friend used his 47 on an elk at just under 1,000 yds, dead elk, 127gr....

Ballistics are fun to debate, but when a bullet hits vitals, your endpoint is often the achieved if using a properly constructed bullet. Velocity and BC are nice, but one need not always have to max out either, to be very successful. Dropped a few deer from a 7BR rifle using 120s wink My longest kill was a 6BR spitting 105s - at 400 yds. Many folks shoot rounds, with bullets and loads far more than capable.

Good Hunting, and Shooting folks, be safe (inc. handloading).
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#6852418 - 08/10/17 09:12 PM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: Buzzsaw]
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For hunting to 300 yards, the 100 TTSX has produced excellent results for me in a 22" 260 MRC. It is one of my favorite deer rifles. The 100 TTSX runs 3100 fps from a 22" 260. It will top out at 3200+, but 3100 produced the tighest groups and best consistency. The 120 works fine too, but the 100 really zaps the deer and pigs. Nosler Partitions come in 100 grains too, if that is the preference. There is no need for the heavy high bc bullets for hunting inside of 300. The recoil is mild, which really may make that ultralight even more pleasant to shoot. H414 produced more velocity, tighter groups, and a bit milder felt recoil than H4350 in this rifle. Tried the H414 when H4350 was unfindable and was pleasantly surprised.

These comments are specific to the close in hunting scenario. Long range and/or paper punching is a different discussion.

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#6853476 - 08/11/17 08:38 PM Re: 130 grain in the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: Buzzsaw]
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H414 is one of the loads I ran in my 6.5-308 w/100 BTs. Shot very well.
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