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New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 05:33 AM
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Picked it up today. JM Stamped 45/70 Marlin Guide Gun:
Never violate a woman, nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil.
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Re: New Bear Medicine
[Re: Hirogen]
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08/04/17 05:47 AM
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nice you need these to go with it and a recoil limbsaver also: Buffalo Bore : https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=151 Item 8A (430gr. Hard Cast penetrator) ➤ 1920 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel ➤ 1879 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel Item 8B (405gr. JFN expander) ➤ 2002 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel ➤ 1955 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel Item 8C (350gr. JFN penetrator) ➤ 2145 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel ➤ 2060 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel Item 8D (500gr. Barnes Buster FMJ-FN penetrator) ➤ 1628 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel ➤ 1590 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel Item 8E (300gr JHP expander) ➤ 2355 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel ➤ 2263 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel Many a Grizzly Bear, Cape Buffalo, Bison and other dangerous game have fallen to our 45-70 loads since we began 45-70 production 1999. Below is an idea of what type of game these loads were designed for. Item 8A -- for game where 5 to 6 feet of straight line non-expanded penetration is needed. Item 8B -- the bullet utilized expands to an inch or more in diameter at our velocities and hence penetration is limited to about two feet in flesh and bone. This is the single most effective hog and black bear load ever devised in 45-70. I don't use it on animals weighing more than 800 lbs as it won't give adequate penetration at bad angles for animals larger than 800 lbs. If you'll limit yourself to broadside (double lung) and CNS hits, this load will work on 2,000 lb animals. Item 8C -- The bullet we utilize in this load is very tough and gives only a small to moderate sized mushroom (about .60 cal) and because of the smallish mushroom, it penetrates very deep -- about 4 feet in muscles and bone and as such is a great bullet for use on dangerous game and on smaller game too as it does expand some. This load is the most versatile of our 45-70 loads. Item 8D -- This bullet is a solid and won't mushroom and thus will penetrate 5 to 6 feet in muscle and bone. Item 8E -- the bullet utilized in this load will expand radically and will penetrate only about 18 to 24 inches in muscle and bone and was designed for use on animals weighing no more than 400 lbs. At 2350 fps it is very fast and flat shooting. (For a 45-70)
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 11:15 AM
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That will get the job done. Good looking gun
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 12:01 PM
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That will get the job done. Good looking gun
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 12:22 PM
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J.G.
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I'm a little green with envy. I've wanted a lever 45-70 for a while.
Congrats!
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 12:47 PM
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great looking gun
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 12:57 PM
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That will get the job done. Good looking gun
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 04:15 PM
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great looking gun
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 04:18 PM
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Similar to my Bear Gun. I run mine with a peep and a clamp on flashlight (for nights spent in a tent). Run the 430 Buffalo Bore and there is nothing you have to fear. Great looking rig.
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Re: New Bear Medicine
[Re: Hirogen]
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08/04/17 04:20 PM
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You can load a mix of different rounds and stagger penetrating and expanding every other shot if POI isn't to different
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 04:46 PM
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Very nice.
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 05:20 PM
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Shoot some 405 grain cast bullets out of one at about 1800-1900 fps it eats on both ends!
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 05:42 PM
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Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
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Re: New Bear Medicine
[Re: Hirogen]
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08/04/17 10:38 PM
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That'll work and then some
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 11:01 PM
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Congrats!!! I'd like to have that exact rifle!!
Never been to a camping world. I prefer Dick's to be honest.
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Re: New Bear Medicine
[Re: Hirogen]
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08/04/17 11:19 PM
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hetman
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This looks like fun on Pigs:
Item 8B -- the bullet utilized expands to an inch or more in diameter at our velocities and hence penetration is limited to about two feet in flesh and bone. This is the single most effective hog and black bear load ever devised in 45-70. I don't use it on animals weighing more than 800 lbs as it won't give adequate penetration at bad angles for animals larger than 800 lbs. If you'll limit yourself to broadside (double lung) and CNS hits, this load will work on 2,000 lb animals.
Item 8B (405gr. JFN expander) 2002 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel 1955 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel
"Lesser mortals are pitied for the misfortune in not being born Texan."
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/04/17 11:53 PM
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/05/17 01:10 AM
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/05/17 03:32 AM
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Hirogen
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I'm a little green with envy. I've wanted a lever 45-70 for a while.
Congrats! Me too. Itch is now scratched.
Never violate a woman, nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil.
-The Iron Code of Druss the Legend
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/05/17 03:36 AM
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This looks like fun on Pigs:
Item 8B -- the bullet utilized expands to an inch or more in diameter at our velocities and hence penetration is limited to about two feet in flesh and bone. This is the single most effective hog and black bear load ever devised in 45-70. I don't use it on animals weighing more than 800 lbs as it won't give adequate penetration at bad angles for animals larger than 800 lbs. If you'll limit yourself to broadside (double lung) and CNS hits, this load will work on 2,000 lb animals.
Item 8B (405gr. JFN expander) 2002 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel 1955 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel Having a hard time finding Buffalo Bore in Canada. Picked up 2 boxes of the Hornady 325 gr leverevolution. I'll see how they work and use the brass for reloads.
Never violate a woman, nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil.
-The Iron Code of Druss the Legend
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/05/17 03:41 AM
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Congrats!!! I'd like to have that exact rifle!! Took me 2 years to find a JM stamped in stainless in like new condition close enough to home that i could shoot it before buying it.
Never violate a woman, nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil.
-The Iron Code of Druss the Legend
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/05/17 08:25 AM
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hetman
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This looks like fun on Pigs:
Item 8B -- the bullet utilized expands to an inch or more in diameter at our velocities and hence penetration is limited to about two feet in flesh and bone. This is the single most effective hog and black bear load ever devised in 45-70. I don't use it on animals weighing more than 800 lbs as it won't give adequate penetration at bad angles for animals larger than 800 lbs. If you'll limit yourself to broadside (double lung) and CNS hits, this load will work on 2,000 lb animals.
Item 8B (405gr. JFN expander) 2002 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel 1955 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel Having a hard time finding Buffalo Bore in Canada. Picked up 2 boxes of the Hornady 325 gr leverevolution. I'll see how they work and use the brass for reloads. You may have to measure the brass: I believe the Hornady brass has been cut down shorter in order to use the FTX bullets. And if you reload the brass with FTX you will need to use Hornady New Dimension Dies- which I think are themselves shorter than regular Dies.
"Lesser mortals are pitied for the misfortune in not being born Texan."
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/05/17 01:37 PM
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Aztecharmory.com is the outlet for BB in Canada. For bears hardcast only way to go IMO.
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Re: New Bear Medicine
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08/05/17 04:02 PM
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Aztecharmory.com is the outlet for BB in Canada. For bears hardcast only way to go IMO. Thx. Will look them up.
Never violate a woman, nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil.
-The Iron Code of Druss the Legend
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