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#6843193 - 08/02/17 08:25 PM Need some advice from you experienced fellers.....
skinnerback Offline
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Registered: 05/30/11
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I'm finally pulling the trigger on getting into reloading. I've had a lot of conversations with folks both young and old and have listened to everything I've heard. I have watched dozens of hours of You Tube videos on reloading. My question is....if you weren't on a tight budget what kit would be your first and why? I know ya'll have probly been asked this question plenty in the past and I'm sorry if you just took a long breath after reading this, again. roflmao I'm liking Lee, and I'm liking a turret press. I will start off with reloading for 223, 300 BLK, 243 Win, 22-250, 30-30, 25-06, 6.5 CM, & 300 WM for rifles. I'm thinking I may want to reload hand gun ammo too...380, 40, 45, 38, & 357 mag. I want to spend my money right the first time. Help LOL.

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#6843215 - 08/02/17 08:35 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: skinnerback]
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#6843234 - 08/02/17 08:45 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: skinnerback]
FiremanJG Offline
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Not on a budget, don't buy a kit.

Forster Co-Ax press is THE WAY! Especially for loading a large variety of cartridges such as yourself.

Order Hornady lock rings for every die. You can swap dies without losing a thousandth of setting. I know of no other press that allows that.

For speed of loading an RCBS Chargemaster. It does make very good ammo. For ultimate charge weight precision and still on a budget, a quality beam scale.

Dies: Hornady, RCBS, Redding. FL bushing dies, and a seater die for each cartridge.

Forster hand trimmer on a budget, with the full pilot kit. Not on a budget, Giraud case trimmer. It'll trim, chamfer, debur 50 cases in 5 minutes.

Read reviews of hand held chamfer/ debur tool if going with a manual case trimmer.

RCBS hand priming tool.

MTM Case Guard ammo boxes, with the real hinges, not the strip of plastic. For each 50 pieces of brass, but another box. They do not go bad, and are dirt cheap.

Read reviews on flash hole debur tools, get one.

Primer pocket brushes, get a small rifle and a large rifle.

Spend as much as you can on a good caliper.

Hornady headspace gauge kit.

Hornady bullet comparator for all your calibers.
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#6843238 - 08/02/17 08:48 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: skinnerback]
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RCBS is always a good choice. I'd look at Redding also. Actually, though, I wouldn't be inclined to buy a kit because kits always come with stuff I wouldn't use.
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#6843240 - 08/02/17 08:49 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: skinnerback]
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Registered: 10/26/09
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I would recommend a Dillon 550, I just bought one for my rifle and some hand gun.
The Dillon 650 is better for high usage pistol cases or 223.
I don't have any problems with lee a pro 1000 that has served me well.
The main difference is that the caliber conversion cost less for the 550.
Look at the cost of the 550 compared to the 650 s.
The Dillon no quibble warentee is far superior .

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#6843251 - 08/02/17 08:53 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: FiremanJG]
RiverRider Offline
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Not on a budget, don't buy a kit.

Forster Co-Ax press is THE WAY! Especially for loading a large variety of cartridges such as yourself.

Order Hornady lock rings for every die. You can swap dies without losing a thousandth of setting. I know of no other press that allows that.

For speed of loading an RCBS Chargemaster. It does make very good ammo. For ultimate charge weight precision and still on a budget, a quality beam scale.

Dies: Hornady, RCBS, Redding. FL bushing dies, and a seater die for each cartridge.

Forster hand trimmer on a budget, with the full pilot kit. Not on a budget, Giraud case trimmer. It'll trim, chamfer, debur 50 cases in 5 minutes.

Read reviews of hand held chamfer/ debur tool if going with a manual case trimmer.

RCBS hand priming tool.

MTM Case Guard ammo boxes, with the real hinges, not the strip of plastic. For each 50 pieces of brass, but another box. They do not go bad, and are dirt cheap.

Read reviews on flash hole debur tools, get one.

Primer pocket brushes, get a small rifle and a large rifle.

Spend as much as you can on a good caliper.

Hornady headspace gauge kit.

Hornady bullet comparator for all your calibers.



I'm not sure I'd suggest a Co-Ax for a beginner, but much worse mistakes have been made. And nix those Hornady lock rings---Forster makes lock rings made to be compatible with the Co-Ax press. I think they are probably better on any kind of press, though. The bullet comparator is just about a 'must," but you can get by just fine without the headpsace gauges.
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#6843254 - 08/02/17 08:55 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: skinnerback]
RiverRider Offline
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I wouldn't recommend a progressive for a beginner either. Definitely.
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#6843268 - 08/02/17 09:08 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: skinnerback]
skinnerback Offline
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Thank you guys for your input. Back to the drawing board. grin

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#6843287 - 08/02/17 09:29 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: skinnerback]
pertnear Offline
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+1 on RCBS..Forget the kit & start with what you need.
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#6843296 - 08/02/17 09:35 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: skinnerback]
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It would be hard to go too far wrong with the RCBS Rock Chucker Kit for $249 at Natchez. You're not going to set any land speed records for fastest reloading with a single stage, but it's a solid press that works well and can do nearly any cartridge you want.

If you're more interested in speed than precision, a Dillon 450 might not be a terrible option.

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#6843309 - 08/02/17 09:48 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: skinnerback]
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I've loaded thousands of rounds on a lee turret press. They are an excellent choice for a wide variety of calibers such as those you listed.
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#6843318 - 08/02/17 09:55 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: patriot07]
skinnerback Offline
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Originally Posted By: patriot07
It would be hard to go too far wrong with the RCBS Rock Chucker Kit for $249 at Natchez. You're not going to set any land speed records for fastest reloading with a single stage, but it's a solid press that works well and can do nearly any cartridge you want.

If you're more interested in speed than precision, a Dillon 450 might not be a terrible option.


I don't care about speed, I want precision & accuracy. I'm anal. I'm one of those guys that measure at least twice before I cut LOL.

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#6843377 - 08/02/17 10:48 PM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: skinnerback]
rjd Offline
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Registered: 11/22/06
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If accuracy is more important than speed, definitely get a single stage press. Much stiffer than a turret, so sizing and seating will be more exact. JMHO

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#6843424 - 08/03/17 12:01 AM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: skinnerback]
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For years I've handloaded for .22 Hornet, .222, .223, .22-250, .243, .257 Roberts, .270 Win., .270 WSM, 7MM-08, 7MM Rem. Mag., .30-30, .300 Savage, .308 Win., .30-06, .303 Brit, 7.62x54r, 8mmx57 JS Mauser, .45/70 and probably a few I've forgotten using 2 single stage presses. I started out with an old RCBS my dad gave me years ago (that now resides on my oldest son's loading bench) and ended up getting a Lee Classic Cast. I do all my pistol loads (and bulk .223) on a Lee Turret.

My point is, keep an open mind and research. You'll hear a lot of folks cheerlead for a certain maker as being the best. My loading equipment is a mixture of just about all of them out there, collected over 30 + years. I like Lee, but I use a lot of Hornady, RCBS, Redding, etc. ad nauseum. I use what works for me. You will do the same.

JG's list is a good one. If it were me, I'd start with a single stage and go from there. Buy a good reloading manual. I like Sierra and also have Hornady, Nosler, Barnes, etc. READ THEM ALL.
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#6843501 - 08/03/17 07:21 AM Re: Need some advice from you experienced fellers..... [Re: RiverRider]
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I don't know what's so difficult about a Co-Ax. And I don't know what's so poor quality with Hornady lock rings. Both have done excellent work for me. And the Co-Ax was purchased from a friend, so no owners manual. But looking at the press, it was self explanatory. confused2
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