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#6837266 - 07/28/17 06:53 PM Bedding question
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I have a savage 114 classic wood stock with accutriger and detachable magazine. I bought a pillar bedding kit for it and was going to start on it when I took the stock off I found it already had some type of insert in it. Not sure what they are. If they are factory pillars they were incredibly poorly done as they are a 1/16 inch or so recessed into the stock. Here are a few pics, and thoughts appreciated.


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#6837292 - 07/28/17 07:12 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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Are the inserts aluminum or plastic?
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#6837299 - 07/28/17 07:21 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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My guess is poorly done. Savage touts a lot of their rifles as pillar bedded. I have a non accustock model 16 that is pillar bedded. The stock is pretty flexible but the pillars in it are the only thing that contacts the stock. Action and barrel are floated.
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#6837320 - 07/28/17 07:35 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
thoughts appreciated.


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See if you can get those out, and install the kit you bought. That's my thought.
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#6837346 - 07/28/17 08:00 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: redchevy
thoughts appreciated.


Thanks,
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See if you can get those out, and install the kit you bought. That's my thought.


That would be my approach as well
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#6837350 - 07/28/17 08:03 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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Will try to get them out tomorrow. They appear to be glued in so we will see. Thanks
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#6837589 - 07/28/17 11:32 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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Looked a little closer when I got home they are aluminum. I'm relatively new to working on guns past cleaning them but that is one hell of a sorry excuse for a factory pillar bedding. The action screws were also incredibly loose!
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#6837593 - 07/28/17 11:37 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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try to get those pit and if that doesn't work glass bed it. Pillar and glass bed go hand and hand anyway
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#6838002 - 07/29/17 03:28 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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I got the factory pillars out pretty pitiful. Drilled new holes wished I had a drill press but it will work. Need to trim down the pillars for length and I'll be ready to mix up my epoxy.
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#6838443 - 07/29/17 09:53 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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How does the gun shoot now?

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#6839932 - 07/31/17 11:47 AM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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I have not finished the pillars yet, I ran out of time so it is all still sitting on the work bench. I measured how long I need to cut my pillars but still need to cut them.

The gun has always shot "ok" but I expected more out of it, especially because the reputation that savages aren't pretty or expensive but they "shoot". I think its a good looking gun, but every other bolt gun I own including 4 factory stock rem 700's and a wby vanguard will out shoot it. Hope to get it stuck back together this week some time and who knows when I will get a chance to shoot it.
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#6839964 - 07/31/17 12:04 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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If you bed the action don't bed the rear tang area..
I have read that Savages need to bedded a bit different than other actions.

I have a barreled action with a custom barrel on it I need to bed in a McMillan and I haven't done it yet as I have read different takes on bedding them. But one thing that has been consistent is not bedding the rear tange area with the safety, it needs some roon for the safety to work.
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#6840005 - 07/31/17 12:27 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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Yes, I have read the same thing about the rear tang, it will be floated.
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#6958606 - 11/13/17 02:05 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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Well... a little blast from the past.

Last week I was able to finally get the pillars cut down to the right length. I flubbed one and cut it too short by a smidge but epoxyy'ed a washer on the bottom of it and trimmed down with an angle grinder and its as good as new. Got it all glued torqued down and it all came back apart like it should... whew grin

Took it to the range and it noticeably shot better. It apparently likes 40 grains of IMR 4350 and a 100 grain bullet. I only shot at 100 yards but 100 grain prohunters, 100 grain Partitions, and 100 grain hornady's all grouped sub inch for 3 shots. Mainly wanted to see if there was any improvement, and I definitely think there was, I would say my average group size was about 50% smaller after pillar bedding.

In the future if I was going to do it again I think I would find someone I know with a drill press, drilling the holes straight was a little trouble, and I had issues with the stock chipping some on both sides. With a savage the area you are drilling through is very thin to begin with, not much room for error!

I may do one of my remingtons or my wby vanguard next, I think they will be more friendly than the savage was by a long shot.
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#6958777 - 11/13/17 04:17 PM Re: Bedding question [Re: redchevy]
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Usually a tad easier the second, third time plus you feel more confident in what you are doing. happy it worked out and you feel it was worth the effort....
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