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OK, lets open this can O worms #6827091 07/19/17 01:17 PM
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I should probablt PM Judd on this but here goes.

Disclaimer, I'm sitting here, drinking coffee and just "thinking" I got an itch to scratch. cant ID it but:

On my 6.5 Weatherby.....It has a Borden Timberline action (long) I assume it has a "magnum" boltface. Hart barrel.

If I wanted to re-chamber or re barrel, what calibers would my choices be?

just bored in Frisco

Re: OK, lets open this can O worms [Re: Buzzsaw] #6827112 07/19/17 01:31 PM
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26 Nosler
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7 Rem Mag
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7-300
300 Win Mag
300 Norma Mag

Some examples.

There's this thing called google.com that will take you to a list of cartridges with the 4 actions there are.


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Re: OK, lets open this can O worms [Re: Buzzsaw] #6827133 07/19/17 01:45 PM
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cool, Google it for me, copy and paste, send it to me please peep

Re: OK, lets open this can O worms [Re: Buzzsaw] #6827141 07/19/17 01:52 PM
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Or you could leave a perfectly good 6.5 Weatherby alone and put the money in your "going to Argentina" hunt fund up


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Re: OK, lets open this can O worms [Re: Buzzsaw] #6827206 07/19/17 02:41 PM
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You love that rifle...don't change it.

But the WSM's and SAUM's all use a mag bolt face too...in addition to the ones Jason mentioned.


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Re: OK, lets open this can O worms [Re: Buzzsaw] #6827208 07/19/17 02:43 PM
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thanks for keeping my schizophrenia under control

Re: OK, lets open this can O worms [Re: Buzzsaw] #6827296 07/19/17 03:49 PM
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Buzz, I built a 7mm/300 Win Mag to shoot the new Berger 195 EOL. It is the most amazing bullet I have ever shot. So something in 7mm to shoot the 195 about 3000 fps would be great. A 28 Nosler or 7mm/300 WM would be good.


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Buzz, you need a sidekick or maybe a mini-me to keep you occupied.


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Re: OK, lets open this can O worms [Re: Buzzsaw] #6828014 07/20/17 12:54 AM
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Buzz between you and Ron y'all make my head hurt.

I think y'all need a .22, a 12 gauge, a 7mm-08, and a stiff drink. grin


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Re: OK, lets open this can O worms [Re: ChadTRG42] #6829656 07/21/17 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Buzz, I built a 7mm/300 Win Mag to shoot the new Berger 195 EOL. It is the most amazing bullet I have ever shot. So something in 7mm to shoot the 195 about 3000 fps would be great. A 28 Nosler or 7mm/300 WM would be good.


Chad, had this discussion with Jeremy the other day when driving back from Jason's place.

I don't get the reason for the 7-300. Maybe I'm just tarded, but me and others have had issues with belted cartridges. Specifically after 2 or 3 firings on brass.

I shoot a 7 saum out of a long stiller action with 28 inch bbl. My sedate load is a 180 hybrid or 183 smk at 3000fps. I have run the same bullet to 3200 "accidentally" but with minimal pressure signs.

I assume I could, but have never tried,running a 195 at 3k. And before you say it, yes I know the definition of assume.lol

What does the 7-300 do for me other than make me use a custom whidden die to remove the ring above the belt, use a bunch more powder, and headspace on a belt, over a belt less SA cartridge?

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IME, belts are pointless, but they are not a problem, either. Neck size your brass, and when you need to full-length size, don't push the shoulder back. Let them headspace on the shoulder, just like any beltless cartridge.

The WM case has more capacity than the SAUM case so with equal pressures you would have higher velocity potential. You have countered that with a longer barrel.

But I guess I don't see much advantage in the 7mm-WM over the standard 7mmRM. The case capacity isn't much greater. Would be the same as the difference between the 300WM and the 308 Norma Mag, or 30-338.

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375 H&H
Then you would have a real rifle.

Re: OK, lets open this can O worms [Re: CharlieSierraDelta] #6830677 07/22/17 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: CharlieSierraDelta
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Buzz, I built a 7mm/300 Win Mag to shoot the new Berger 195 EOL. It is the most amazing bullet I have ever shot. So something in 7mm to shoot the 195 about 3000 fps would be great. A 28 Nosler or 7mm/300 WM would be good.


Chad, had this discussion with Jeremy the other day when driving back from Jason's place.

I don't get the reason for the 7-300. Maybe I'm just tarded, but me and others have had issues with belted cartridges. Specifically after 2 or 3 firings on brass.

I shoot a 7 saum out of a long stiller action with 28 inch bbl. My sedate load is a 180 hybrid or 183 smk at 3000fps. I have run the same bullet to 3200 "accidentally" but with minimal pressure signs.

I assume I could, but have never tried,running a 195 at 3k. And before you say it, yes I know the definition of assume.lol

What does the 7-300 do for me other than make me use a custom whidden die to remove the ring above the belt, use a bunch more powder, and headspace on a belt, over a belt less SA cartridge?


A 7 Rem Mag struggles to get a 195 gr up to 2850 fps MV. The bullet was loaded in my 7 Rem Mag.

The 7-300 has the case capacity to get the bullet up to speed, over 3000 fps MV.

Why not use 28 Nosler? Go price brass for it.

Custom die? Um, no. Change out the bushing in a 300 Win Mag die, and viola, it's a 7-300 die.


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Fireman: Not arguing with you. You have the experience with these cartridges and I don't. But a quick check on the interweb says the 7RM has a case capacity of 84 and the 300WM has 88. All things being equal (which I know they never are) how would a 4 or 5% increase in case capacity provide that much more velocity potential? Or is the 7-300 you refer to, based on the Weatherby case? thanks

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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: CharlieSierraDelta
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Buzz, I built a 7mm/300 Win Mag to shoot the new Berger 195 EOL. It is the most amazing bullet I have ever shot. So something in 7mm to shoot the 195 about 3000 fps would be great. A 28 Nosler or 7mm/300 WM would be good.


Chad, had this discussion with Jeremy the other day when driving back from Jason's place.

I don't get the reason for the 7-300. Maybe I'm just tarded, but me and others have had issues with belted cartridges. Specifically after 2 or 3 firings on brass.

I shoot a 7 saum out of a long stiller action with 28 inch bbl. My sedate load is a 180 hybrid or 183 smk at 3000fps. I have run the same bullet to 3200 "accidentally" but with minimal pressure signs.

I assume I could, but have never tried,running a 195 at 3k. And before you say it, yes I know the definition of assume.lol

What does the 7-300 do for me other than make me use a custom whidden die to remove the ring above the belt, use a bunch more powder, and headspace on a belt, over a belt less SA cartridge?


A 7 Rem Mag struggles to get a 195 gr up to 2850 fps MV. The bullet was loaded in my 7 Rem Mag.

The 7-300 has the case capacity to get the bullet up to speed, over 3000 fps MV.

Why not use 28 Nosler? Go price brass for it.

Custom die? Um, no. Change out the bushing in a 300 Win Mag die, and viola, it's a 7-300 die.


I wasnt referring to a custom sizing or seating die, I was referring to the custom collet dies that I had to use to remove the slight ring around the top of the belt on 7mag and 300 mag brass. It is somewhat common among belted cartridges. Here is a link so we are on the same page. http://www.larrywillis.com/ .

The die is in the middle of the page.


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375 H&H
Then you would have a real rifle.


I have a 375 H&H


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