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#6824252 - 07/16/17 02:14 PM Custom rifle expectations?
scdogman Offline
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What is the expectation of MOA with a custom rifle? Is that MOA guaranteed?

Also other than the smoothness of the bolt, what other improvement over factory rifle that has been customized?

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#6824271 - 07/16/17 02:48 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: scdogman]
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I would expect .5 MOA and yes most do guarantee.
Normally better barrel,better trigger,better stock that is properly bedded which is hit or miss with factory.
Along with choices of barrel length ,barrel weight, fluting style and finish options...
Thus the name Custom!

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#6824292 - 07/16/17 03:06 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
I would expect .5 MOA and yes most do guarantee.
Normally better barrel,better trigger,better stock that is properly bedded which is hit or miss with factory.
Along with choices of barrel length ,barrel weight, fluting style and finish options...
Thus the name Custom!


Yup! up

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#6824325 - 07/16/17 03:31 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: scdogman]
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Being able to shoot is the biggest factor. I would want to know my custom gun could do .5" if not better with the right shooter

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#6824468 - 07/16/17 06:19 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
I would expect .5 MOA and yes most do guarantee.
Normally better barrel,better trigger,better stock that is properly bedded which is hit or miss with factory.
Along with choices of barrel length ,barrel weight, fluting style and finish options...
Thus the name Custom!


Is that a five shot MOA or three shot MOA?

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#6824484 - 07/16/17 06:29 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: scdogman]
MClark Offline
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Registered: 10/09/15
Posts: 244
Loc: Arizona
It also would depend on what the rifle was built for.
A 458 with iron sights the shooter will not hold 0.5 moa but will be more than good for its intended purpose.
3 shots
5 shots
The first shot is the one that matters.

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#6824494 - 07/16/17 06:36 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: scdogman]
Adchunts Offline
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Registered: 12/03/16
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Loc: New Braunfels, TX
I would expect a "custom" rifle to be better than any stock rifle I've had. Looks, trigger, smoother action, and most of all, group sizes.

That's actually a pretty tall order, as I have owned some pretty good out of the box rifles.

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#6824515 - 07/16/17 06:56 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: scdogman]
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Factory rifles that guarantee 5 shots into an inch are not uncommon these days. I would hope and expect the custom to shoot better most of the time, especially the ones charging $5k plus for a 1/2" guarantee.

I like the overall feel of a custom. I get to pick the McMillan stock of my choosing in my length of pull. I have all triggers set at the same pull weight. I've also grown to like a 23" barrel. Aftermarket bottom metal is allot nicer than factory as well. Fit and finish of a custom is well above that in a factory rifle. It's kind of like buying a spec house vs building your own. I think Cooper, Nosler, MRC, and Law offer a really nice in between option. I would probably lean towards one of those if I was going to do it again.


Edited by TxHunter80 (07/16/17 07:04 PM)

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#6824623 - 07/16/17 09:15 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: scdogman]
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Best part is a premium barrel. Keeps on shooting 1/2 MOA for a lot of rounds, without cleaning.

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#6824837 - 07/17/17 08:33 AM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: Deerhunter61]
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Originally Posted By: Deerhunter61
Originally Posted By: DStroud
I would expect .5 MOA and yes most do guarantee.
Normally better barrel,better trigger,better stock that is properly bedded which is hit or miss with factory.
Along with choices of barrel length ,barrel weight, fluting style and finish options...
Thus the name Custom!


Is that a five shot MOA or three shot MOA?


That depends on the barrel contour you pick.

Thin means light, means heats up fast, probably won't hold together for more than 3.

Heavier barrel holds up for more shots.
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#6824877 - 07/17/17 09:04 AM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: Deerhunter61]
Jgraider Offline
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Originally Posted By: Deerhunter61
Originally Posted By: DStroud
I would expect .5 MOA and yes most do guarantee.
Normally better barrel,better trigger,better stock that is properly bedded which is hit or miss with factory.
Along with choices of barrel length ,barrel weight, fluting style and finish options...
Thus the name Custom!


Is that a five shot MOA or three shot MOA?


And many makers specify what ammo must be used to get that .5 MOA.

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#6825150 - 07/17/17 01:12 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: scdogman]
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Registered: 06/29/11
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Loc: Frisco, Texas
B.S.

If you buy a TRUE , 100% custom, "heavy rifle" $5,000-$6,000. It Better shoot .25 MOA or save $4,000 and get a stock rifle which will shoot .50 .75 all day Like the new Tikka AR/Chassis rifle.

$4,000 extra aint worth it just to shoot steel. unless you are going to compete in Serious Long Range comps, re; PRS, F-Class Open, LR Benchrest. You don't need .25 moa

I've about come to the decision a true "custom" is really not worth the $$ or frustratingly long, stupid, wait times.

Hell, if I ordered a custom today, I would die of old age waiting on a stock to fit ME.

I've been studying ALL these custom and semi customs available "off the shelf" Plus just plain "factory" guns lately. I have or have owned a half dozen or so TRUE customs. Yes, the "quality" fit and finish is MUCH better and you will love it.

BUT



You could save the $3,000 and buy a Nightforce ATACR, Swaro-XI, which will make your rig complete


Edited by Buzzsaw (07/17/17 01:14 PM)
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#6825167 - 07/17/17 01:29 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
B.S.

If you buy a TRUE , 100% custom, "heavy rifle" $5,000-$6,000. It Better shoot .25 MOA or save $4,000 and get a stock rifle which will shoot .50 .75 all day Like the new Tikka AR/Chassis rifle.

$4,000 extra aint worth it just to shoot steel. unless you are going to compete in Serious Long Range comps, re; PRS, F-Class Open, LR Benchrest. You don't need .25 moa

I've about come to the decision a true "custom" is really not worth the $$ or frustratingly long, stupid, wait times.

Hell, if I ordered a custom today, I would die of old age waiting on a stock to fit ME.

I've been studying ALL these custom and semi customs available "off the shelf" Plus just plain "factory" guns lately. I have or have owned a half dozen or so TRUE customs. Yes, the "quality" fit and finish is MUCH better and you will love it.

BUT



You could save the $3,000 and buy a Nightforce ATACR, Swaro-XI, which will make your rig complete
I tend to agree with all of this. I'd love to have one, but I can't possibly understand how I could justify that level of cost when any number of $700-$1,000 factory rifles will shoot .5MOA with the right handloads.

To each their own though. Just like a $75k bass boat - folks spend their $ how they want to.

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#6825228 - 07/17/17 02:28 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: patriot07]
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Registered: 08/24/09
Posts: 617
Loc: San Angelo
Originally Posted By: patriot07
Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
B.S.

If you buy a TRUE , 100% custom, "heavy rifle" $5,000-$6,000. It Better shoot .25 MOA or save $4,000 and get a stock rifle which will shoot .50 .75 all day Like the new Tikka AR/Chassis rifle.

$4,000 extra aint worth it just to shoot steel. unless you are going to compete in Serious Long Range comps, re; PRS, F-Class Open, LR Benchrest. You don't need .25 moa

I've about come to the decision a true "custom" is really not worth the $$ or frustratingly long, stupid, wait times.

Hell, if I ordered a custom today, I would die of old age waiting on a stock to fit ME.

I've been studying ALL these custom and semi customs available "off the shelf" Plus just plain "factory" guns lately. I have or have owned a half dozen or so TRUE customs. Yes, the "quality" fit and finish is MUCH better and you will love it.

BUT



You could save the $3,000 and buy a Nightforce ATACR, Swaro-XI, which will make your rig complete
I tend to agree with all of this. I'd love to have one, but I can't possibly understand how I could justify that level of cost when any number of $700-$1,000 factory rifles will shoot .5MOA with the right handloads.

To each their own though. Just like a $75k bass boat - folks spend their $ how they want to.


A lot like watches some are happy with their G Shock and others prefer a Rolex. Handmade and finer materials cost money but don't necessarily do the job any better. Applies to lots of things
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#6825282 - 07/17/17 03:13 PM Re: Custom rifle expectations? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Registered: 08/23/11
Posts: 3253
Loc: San Angelo
Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
B.S.

If you buy a TRUE , 100% custom, "heavy rifle" $5,000-$6,000. It Better shoot .25 MOA or save $4,000 and get a stock rifle which will shoot .50 .75 all day Like the new Tikka AR/Chassis rifle.

$4,000 extra aint worth it just to shoot steel. unless you are going to compete in Serious Long Range comps, re; PRS, F-Class Open, LR Benchrest. You don't need .25 moa

I've about come to the decision a true "custom" is really not worth the $$ or frustratingly long, stupid, wait times.

Hell, if I ordered a custom today, I would die of old age waiting on a stock to fit ME.

I've been studying ALL these custom and semi customs available "off the shelf" Plus just plain "factory" guns lately. I have or have owned a half dozen or so TRUE customs. Yes, the "quality" fit and finish is MUCH better and you will love it.

BUT



You could save the $3,000 and buy a Nightforce ATACR, Swaro-XI, which will make your rig complete


I concur
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