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#6821781 - 07/13/17 03:29 PM Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor
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I'm doing load development with RL16 in my 6.5 Creedmoor with 143 ELD X. What are using as a starting point with that powder? Also, has anyone tried RL16 with Lapua Creedmoor brass? I had to drop my powder charge by 1 grain with Lapua brass and H4350. Any info is appreciated.
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#6821787 - 07/13/17 03:34 PM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Just looking on line, I didn't see any. But there is some 260 Rem data (below) with R16. If you reduce this 260 Rem data by 1 to 1.5 grains (for Hornady brass) for the Creedmoor, that will be about right. Lapua brass will have less internal case volume and probably tighter necks, so reduce further by about .5 to 1 full grain.

http://www.alliantpowder.com/downloads/RL16_Initial_Loads.pdf
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#6821792 - 07/13/17 03:38 PM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Also, looking at the Alliant R16 data, their data was done with FC (Federal) brass. In the 260 and 6.5 CM, I've seen the FC brass need about .5 to 1 full grain less powder to equal 6.5 CM Hornady brass. One load I did with FC brass I used my Hornady load, and it was blowing primers. I reduced the load 1 grain, and it was back on track. The 6.5 CM FC brass must have less internal case volume than Hornady.
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#6821881 - 07/13/17 04:56 PM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Where should I start with the gear I have? My sweet spot with Lapua brass and H4350 is 41.0 grains. That's a full grain less than my Hornady brass loads. Since the burn rate with RL16 and 4350 are close, should I start at 41 or drop back to 40 and work up in .5 grain increments?
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#6822054 - 07/13/17 07:59 PM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Yes, I would start slightly lower, and work up to find your speeds and/or pressure.
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#6823901 - 07/15/17 10:33 PM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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I'm at 43.1 which is giving me 2913fps with a 140 out of Prime(Norma) brass.

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#6824258 - 07/16/17 02:29 PM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Just left the range. 42.3 grains is the load. Thanks for the info fellas.
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#6828459 - 07/20/17 07:58 AM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Just left the range. 42.3 grains is the load. Thanks for the info fellas.


what kind of groups are you getting and how fast if you don't mind

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#6828464 - 07/20/17 08:02 AM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: mulish]
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Originally Posted By: mulish
Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Just left the range. 42.3 grains is the load. Thanks for the info fellas.


what kind of groups are you getting and how fast if you don't mind


Very tiny little one hole groups. That thing was shooting like a laser. 90% gun 10% shooter though me thinks. grin
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#6828558 - 07/20/17 09:18 AM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: KRoyal]
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Originally Posted By: KRoyal
Originally Posted By: mulish
Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Just left the range. 42.3 grains is the load. Thanks for the info fellas.


what kind of groups are you getting and how fast if you don't mind


Very tiny little one hole groups. That thing was shooting like a laser. 90% gun 10% shooter though me thinks. grin


I think your numbers are correct.
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#6828794 - 07/20/17 11:45 AM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: KRoyal
Originally Posted By: mulish
Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Just left the range. 42.3 grains is the load. Thanks for the info fellas.


what kind of groups are you getting and how fast if you don't mind


Very tiny little one hole groups. That thing was shooting like a laser. 90% gun 10% shooter though me thinks. grin


I think your numbers are correct.


roflmao
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#6828797 - 07/20/17 11:48 AM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: mulish]
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Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Just left the range. 42.3 grains is the load. Thanks for the info fellas.


what kind of groups are you getting and how fast if you don't mind


Sub-half groups and 2690 fps from a 20" barrel. It seems to be faster than H4350.
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#6829144 - 07/20/17 03:53 PM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
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[quote=ImTheReasonDovesMourn]Just left the range. 42.3 grains is the load. Thanks for the info fellas.


what kind of groups are you getting and how fast if you don't mind





another one hole shooter

with no picks hmmmmmmmm



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#6829209 - 07/20/17 04:40 PM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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First 2 groups. That's 41.0 and 41.3 grains. The next few groups opened up a little until I got to 42.0. Then I hit 42.3 grains and my group was back to .3 MOA. That's where I left it.


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#6829259 - 07/20/17 05:06 PM Re: Alliant RL16 and the 6.5 Creedmoor [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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ok, I believe you now bolt

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