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#6819639 - 07/11/17 03:44 PM Boykin Spaniel
SingleShot85 Offline


Registered: 05/27/09
Posts: 1781
Loc: S.A. and Kinney Co.
anybody got info, pro's con's, puppies for sale...

kt


Edited by SingleShot85 (07/11/17 04:01 PM)

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#6820603 - 07/12/17 12:08 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: SingleShot85]
nate33 Offline
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Registered: 11/16/16
Posts: 263
If you want a retriever you are better off with an English Cocker Spaniel,,, Boykins make very average retrievers and great pets.

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#6820628 - 07/12/17 12:28 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: SingleShot85]
CCBIRDDOGMAN Offline
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The ones I have been around are fantastic retrievers and worked very well with my Pointing dogs at retrieving quail. And as far as I know, neither had any kind of formal training, they just took them dove hunting as pups and they naturally do what they do.
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#6820666 - 07/12/17 01:01 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: nate33]
NorthTXbirdhunter Offline
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Registered: 03/17/11
Posts: 909
Loc: Rowlett, Texas
Originally Posted By: nate33
If you want a retriever you are better off with an English Cocker Spaniel,,, Boykins make very average retrievers and great pets.


Totally disagree. I quail hunted with a guy back in February that had a Boykin and she fit in just fine with my dogs. It was whoa broke to tap. Never ran up a bird nor interfered with my dogs on point. But the best part was she found every downed bird we had shot and there were a bunch. I was skeptical in the beginning but she made a believer out of me.

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#6820680 - 07/12/17 01:13 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: SingleShot85]
Buckshot54 Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 07/12/17
Posts: 7
Buy a Cocker. You wont be disappointed

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#6820712 - 07/12/17 01:41 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: SingleShot85]
triggerbowtx Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 12/01/09
Posts: 134
I've seen some pretty sweet boykins. And the people I know that own them...love them. That's all I know...

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#6820922 - 07/12/17 05:51 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: nate33]
houstonLBD Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 09/10/15
Posts: 49
Originally Posted By: nate33
If you want a retriever you are better off with an English Cocker Spaniel,,, Boykins make very average retrievers and great pets.


Dang, guess my Boykin is pretty average with her HRCH (Hunting Retriever Champion) title, 4 passes towards her Master Retriever title, and went through 2 series of the HRC Grand with no handles on marks. Yup. Average at best! But hey, what did I know. I was just training my first dog on my own. Pictured below at the Grand.




Edited by houstonLBD (07/12/17 05:54 PM)

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#6820959 - 07/12/17 06:35 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: houstonLBD]
bobcat1 Offline
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Registered: 07/22/07
Posts: 2083
Loc: Sanger, Texas
I like Cockers and own 2. I also like Boykins. I don't think you would go wrong with either. I would not sell either cocker I own. Last year was Buster's first year in the dove field. Never lost a bird and neither did any of the hunters in our group. Best dead bird dog I have ever owned in 47 years of hunting.

Buster is 2 years old now. Sits, Stays, looks where I direct him by hand Stops and sits when my hand goes up and waits for direction by hand signal. Very soft mouthed and retrieves to hand and gives upon on request.





Missy is almost 7 months old now. She sits stays and is in training to stop when my hand goes up and sits and waits for direction. She may be picking this all up faster than Buster did. Time will tell.




Both were pretty natural retrievers as puppies.

Missy:



Buster retrieving a dead dove:


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#6821004 - 07/12/17 07:30 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: SingleShot85]
houstonLBD Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 09/10/15
Posts: 49
Originally Posted By: SingleShot85
anybody got info, pro's con's, puppies for sale...

kt


I'll be breeding my female in the fall. Puppies likely out to homes in the spring.

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#6821100 - 07/12/17 09:19 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: SingleShot85]
Buckshot54 Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 07/12/17
Posts: 7
I know that the first time I saw a english cocker on a tailgate I laughed......and then he went to work. I've never seen anything like the way these dogs work. I own some fine bred labs and they can heel and hunt and find dead birds but nothing like watching the little cockers work. I bought one and cannot wait til season starts up. I bet we don't lose many this year.

Nothing against the Boykins. They're fine dogs as well and I've seen some great ones on the east coast. But it'd be tough to beat the little cockers and the way they work and learn.

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#6821113 - 07/12/17 09:34 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: SingleShot85]
houstonLBD Offline
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Registered: 09/10/15
Posts: 49
The big advantage in my mind when it comes to a Boykin is size. You get a dog that can do the same work you need your lab to do when out duck hunting in Texas but in 50-70% less the weight of a lab. Boykins are also great Upland dogs and are very flashy in the field. Are cockers a machine working a field, absolutely. But Boykins are Spaniels, and know how to use that nose as well when working a field. Boykins are one of the best dual purpose dogs, it's what they were bred to be.


Edited by houstonLBD (07/12/17 09:39 PM)

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#6821174 - 07/12/17 10:28 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: SingleShot85]
Buckshot54 Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 07/12/17
Posts: 7
I know that the first time I saw a english cocker on a tailgate I laughed......and then he went to work. I've never seen anything like the way these dogs work. I own some fine bred labs and they can heel and hunt and find dead birds but nothing like watching the little cockers work. I bought one and cannot wait til season starts up. I bet we don't lose many this year.

Nothing against the Boykins. They're fine dogs as well and I've seen some great ones on the east coast. But it'd be tough to beat the little cockers and the way they work and learn.

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#6821362 - 07/13/17 08:28 AM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: SingleShot85]
shooterwalter Offline
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Registered: 09/05/12
Posts: 1652
Loc: Poetry, Texas Kaufman County 8...
My Boykin is fantastic. Hank was well trained when I got him. He makes my team look like old time pros. I can send him into a brair patch to flush and he is a machine and he retreives like no dog I have ever seen. He has even taken birds out of other dogs mouths.
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#6821495 - 07/13/17 10:20 AM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: nate33]
BradyBuck Offline
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Registered: 10/18/07
Posts: 5347
Loc: Abilene, TX
Originally Posted By: nate33
If you want a retriever you are better off with an English Cocker Spaniel,,, Boykins make very average retrievers and great pets.


I also disagree. The Boykins I've been around have the most retrieving desire of any dog besides a lab. My good friend's Boykin has retrieved literally a few thousand dove as a 6 year old. You couldn't ask for a better dove dog.

The proof is in the pudding as well. There are Boykins out there with a HRCH in front of their name. You can't train at that level with out a lot of retrieving desire. I'm not sure any cockers are out there running 100 yard blinds and 150 yard triples.

I'm speaking specifically to the comments about retrieving desire.


Edited by BradyBuck (07/13/17 10:24 AM)

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#6821789 - 07/13/17 03:35 PM Re: Boykin Spaniel [Re: nate33]
huck18 Offline
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Registered: 03/04/10
Posts: 1789
Loc: Ft. Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: nate33
If you want a retriever you are better off with an English Cocker Spaniel,,, Boykins make very average retrievers and great pets.


This is totally false. You obviously don't have any experience with Boykins. Boykins are the only non retriever breed that has had success at the highest levels of retriever hunt test. Outside of a Lab, Chessie, Golden, the Boykin is you next best bet for a small retriever.

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