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Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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06/29/17 07:58 PM
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Posting this for a friend. He had this posted on Facebook. I copied it here to share it. If you have any info on this PM me and I'll get you in toutch with him. I was asked by the SAPD to repost this-so please feel free to share this where you can and be on the look out for this rifle-alert authorities if you see it-and please let me know. STOLEN Rifle!! Please be on the lookout for this one of a kind Texas Custom Rifles 300 Win Mag. It was stolen out of my locked truck while a ran a quick errand (on 6/10/17) in San Antonio, Tx. It is built on a Stiller Spectre action with a 26" barrel, Manners T4A stock, Atlas Bipod, Vortex Razor scope and many other things when combined with the unique rusty look cerakote paint make it stand out. If you see this rifle please let me know and/or alert authorities. I can assure you is not another one just like it on Earth. Barrel also is engraved with my son's name and a Bible verse that corresponds with his birthdate "Luke 8:10-15". Thank You. **Update-I've decided to offer a $1000.00 reward for the return of this rifle-with only a few questions asked and a few minor stipulations. I had this rifle built for my son, worked for well over two years to get the parts and to have the work done. #stolenrifle #texascustomrifles #mannerscompositestocks #atlasbipod #mannerst4a #cerakote #texasrust #rusty #Luke8:10-15 #vortexoptics #vortexrazorgen2 #300WM #300winmag #cerakote #rustyrifle #stillerprecision
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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06/29/17 08:51 PM
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That's a one of kind. I hope it turns up! And I hope the thief loses both hands!
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06/29/17 09:00 PM
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That's a one of kind. I hope it turns up! And I hope the thief loses both hands!
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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06/29/17 10:52 PM
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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06/29/17 11:39 PM
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That stinks Keeping an eye out on the northwest side.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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06/30/17 03:17 PM
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That's a shame. Great looking custom.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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06/30/17 03:35 PM
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Sorry for the loss but. Y would someone leave a gun like that in there truck even for a second is beyond me. Just my $.02.
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Better leaving that in your car for a second than a CHILD!
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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06/30/17 04:16 PM
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Sorry for the loss but. Y would someone leave a gun like that in there truck even for a second is beyond me. Just my $.02. Easy to sit back and say that, but just about everyone does it. Say your driving buy yourself and you need to stop and get gas a drink and take a wiz... you cary it in and lean it next to the urinal? yeah i'd like to see that. Some POS thief stole it, don't try and make it his fault.
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Sorry for the loss but. Y would someone leave a gun like that in there truck even for a second is beyond me. Just my $.02. Easy to sit back and say that, but just about everyone does it. Say your driving buy yourself and you need to stop and get gas a drink and take a wiz... you cary it in and lean it next to the urinal? yeah i'd like to see that. Some POS thief stole it, don't try and make it his fault. ^^^^^^^^^x2 Could he have been followed by someone knowing he had it? Not trying to play CSI just a thought.
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06/30/17 05:03 PM
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I hate thieves and hope they shoot themselves in the face with it. Sure hope it's recovered and returned.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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06/30/17 05:25 PM
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there's no valid excuse for thievery.
even if it was left on the hood of the truck people shouldn't touch things they KNOW aren't theirs for any reason at any time.
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Like I said, "Just my $.02" Sorry you got your panty's in a wad. Have a nice day!!
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Sorry for the loss but. Y would someone leave a gun like that in there truck even for a second is beyond me. Just my $.02. Easy to sit back and say that, but just about everyone does it. Say your driving buy yourself and you need to stop and get gas a drink and take a wiz... you cary it in and lean it next to the urinal? yeah i'd like to see that. Some POS thief stole it, don't try and make it his fault. I've actually done that with a cased shotgun. Hate thieves!
To be determined
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06/30/17 08:06 PM
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Nice looking gun hope they catch the a_ _hole!
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Sorry for the loss but. Y would someone leave a gun like that in there truck even for a second is beyond me. Just my $.02. Easy to sit back and say that, but just about everyone does it. Say your driving buy yourself and you need to stop and get gas a drink and take a wiz... you cary it in and lean it next to the urinal? yeah i'd like to see that. Some POS thief stole it, don't try and make it his fault. X3
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I don't know how you would go about it, but alert pawn shops far & wide
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Sorry for the loss but. Y would someone leave a gun like that in there truck even for a second is beyond me. Just my $.02. Easy to sit back and say that, but just about everyone does it. Say your driving buy yourself and you need to stop and get gas a drink and take a wiz... you cary it in and lean it next to the urinal? yeah i'd like to see that. Some POS thief stole it, don't try and make it his fault. Why would you walk off and leave something behind thin glass in a public setting that you usually keep locked inside a safe that's inside your home? Never move so fast that you overlook plain ole common sense. Just as I own guns that I might leave locked in my truck, I own several that I would never consider treating that way. I also make it a point not to put any decals or stickers on my truck that would give anyone the idea that I'm a gun owner. I also plan ahead so that I never wear camo or other hunting clothing into a store if I have left a gun in my truck. But then, learning not to take as many chances in life is one of those things that comes with age. Accepting personal responsibility is why it's called "learning it the hard way."
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Sorry for the loss but. Y would someone leave a gun like that in there truck even for a second is beyond me. Just my $.02. Easy to sit back and say that, but just about everyone does it. Say your driving buy yourself and you need to stop and get gas a drink and take a wiz... you cary it in and lean it next to the urinal? yeah i'd like to see that. Some POS thief stole it, don't try and make it his fault. Why would you walk off and leave something behind thin glass in a public setting that you usually keep locked inside a safe that's inside your home? Never move so fast that you overlook plain ole common sense. Just as I own guns that I might leave locked in my truck, I own several that I would never consider treating that way. I also make it a point not to put any decals or stickers on my truck that would give anyone the idea that I'm a gun owner. I also plan ahead so that I never wear camo or other hunting clothing into a store if I have left a gun in my truck. But then, learning not to take as many chances in life is one of those things that comes with age. Accepting personal responsibility is why it's called "learning it the hard way." Back to redchevy's question, what would you do? If you're taking a long trip with the rifle and you have to stop for gas and a bathroom break, what would you do? His truck was locked with the rifle inside. It's not like he left the truck unlocked or the rifle lying in the bed. I couldn't tell you how many theft/burglary cases I've worked over the years in which the victims' careless actions contributed to the crimes. Those are some of the most frustrating cases because it almost amounts to the victims giving their property away. However, this doesn't appear to be one of those cases. The thieving POS is to blame here, not the victim. OP, I hope your friend gets his rifle back, losing something like that to a thief really sucks.
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It looks pretty unique. Maybe it will turn up somewhere?
fouzman's rifle did I believe at a pawn show and he got it back.
To be determined
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07/01/17 03:18 PM
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Sorry for the loss but. Y would someone leave a gun like that in there truck even for a second is beyond me. Just my $.02. Easy to sit back and say that, but just about everyone does it. Say your driving buy yourself and you need to stop and get gas a drink and take a wiz... you cary it in and lean it next to the urinal? yeah i'd like to see that. Some POS thief stole it, don't try and make it his fault. X3 Well stated redchevy.
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07/01/17 06:33 PM
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Sorry for the loss but. Y would someone leave a gun like that in there truck even for a second is beyond me. Just my $.02. Easy to sit back and say that, but just about everyone does it. Say your driving buy yourself and you need to stop and get gas a drink and take a wiz... you cary it in and lean it next to the urinal? yeah i'd like to see that. Some POS thief stole it, don't try and make it his fault. Why would you walk off and leave something behind thin glass in a public setting that you usually keep locked inside a safe that's inside your home? Never move so fast that you overlook plain ole common sense. Just as I own guns that I might leave locked in my truck, I own several that I would never consider treating that way. I also make it a point not to put any decals or stickers on my truck that would give anyone the idea that I'm a gun owner. I also plan ahead so that I never wear camo or other hunting clothing into a store if I have left a gun in my truck. But then, learning not to take as many chances in life is one of those things that comes with age. Accepting personal responsibility is why it's called "learning it the hard way." Back to redchevy's question, what would you do? I practice what the military taught me. My firearm either goes with me or it's watched. If traveling alone then I plan accordingly. Thieves are pieces of garbage!
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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"I practice what the military taught me. My firearm either goes with me or it's watched. If traveling alone then I plan accordingly. Thieves are pieces of garbage!"
Be honest, If that was your weapon, would you have left it in a truck unprotected??
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Obviously, the fault lies with the scumbag thieve that stole the gun. That said I never leave a firearm in an unattended vehicle. I drive 6 hours to the ranch, alone, often. I can make it there on a full tank but if I stop for fuel, I stay at the pump. I pack a few drinks and piss in an empty bottle if the need arises. Again, not blaming the victim but it's the world we live in.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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07/01/17 08:31 PM
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My ? Is, did the victim have gun bumper stickers on his truck?
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"Everyone does it" is in denial of "I should have known better."
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I practice what the military taught me. My firearm either goes with me or it's watched. If traveling alone then I plan accordingly. Thieves are pieces of garbage! Lots of places where a break in would be easily noticed while you go inside to take a whizz. Just think outside the box.
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
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Laying blame on this poor man for his rifle getting stolen is the same thing as if his beautiful wife was taken from the truck and raped. "He should have known better than to take such a pretty woman put in public."
Insane.
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Typical of this forum anymore, the holier than thou crew shows up and hijacks a thread. This guy asked for help and lo and behold, no one offers help.
"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
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Laying blame on this poor man for his rifle getting stolen is the same thing as if his beautiful wife was taken from the truck and raped. "He should have known better than to take such a pretty woman put in public."
Insane. i don't think anyone is laying blame, I'm certainly not. The thieves are to blame 100%. Some, including myself just have a different perspective and opinions on how they roll and secure their belongings...specifically firearms. Nothing remains in the car/truck when not present...backpack, laptop, phone, other valuables go with me whether I'm gone a few minutes or longer. Yep, I'm that guy walking through the grocery store with my backpack (gun bag) in the shopping cart. Planning ahead can prevent becoming a victim. I'm curious though, the rifle case is large...was it laying across the back seat of the truck or car or in a trunk?
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Typical of this forum anymore, the holier than thou crew shows up and hijacks a thread. This guy asked for help and lo and behold, no one offers help. Exactly.
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Typical of this forum anymore, the holier than thou crew shows up and hijacks a thread. This guy asked for help and lo and behold, no one offers help. The ONLY help anyone on here can give the fella that had his rifle stolen is to keep an eye out for this gun. I'm sure that anyone that opened this thread will be on the lookout. Another way to help others is to offer opinions that will perhaps help someone else from being in the same predicament. In the industry I work in, we reach out and help other companies within industry that have a FUBAR. We then use their misfortune to teach and learn.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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The truck had no stickers other than A&M sticker. The gun was on the floor of the backseat covered up by stuff with clothes on top.
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I wish him luck. It sounds like bad luck as he didn't do anything wrong I asked about the stickers as those are and can be inviting to the bad guys
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I sent the picture and description of the gun to a couple of LEO's here in the Hill Country, and to two people I know who are in the long range shooting interest group. The San Antonio gun show is this weekend; it might be a good idea to contact the sponsors of the show: Saxet. The idiot who did the robbery may not be so stupid as to try to fence it this soon after taking it, but most of these [censored] are not necessarily the sharpest knives in the drawer.
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Typical of this forum anymore, the holier than thou crew shows up and hijacks a thread. This guy asked for help and lo and behold, no one offers help. The ONLY help anyone on here can give the fella that had his rifle stolen is to keep an eye out for this gun. I'm sure that anyone that opened this thread will be on the lookout. Another way to help others is to offer opinions that will perhaps help someone else from being in the same predicament. In the industry I work in, we reach out and help other companies within industry that have a FUBAR. We then use their misfortune to teach and learn. Exactly
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Thanks Mikie.
All info in this thread is good info. I keep my gun in my truck sometimes when I go to the store. I will now plan accordingly for now on.
Thanks everyone for helping share this and spreading knowledge of how to possibly not have it happen to us.
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It's not a matter of putting blame on anyone, but encouraging others to plan ahead and stay smart.
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The truck had no stickers other than A&M sticker. The gun was on the floor of the backseat covered up by stuff with clothes on top. I have to believe crooks are drawn to trucks and drivers who have a certain look to them. You look like someone with the means to buy some nice guns, and young enough to leave one or two of them in your truck.
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Tough luck for your buddy. I hope he gets his rifle back and the POS who stole it is dealt with harshly.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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I have stickers on my truck but nothing inside worth stealing. I'll keep an eye out here MM, but I doubt anything will show up this far NE.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Being covered up on the floor of the backseat I gotta think somebody KNEW that gun was there... P_102
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Being covered up on the floor of the backseat I gotta think somebody KNEW that gun was there... P_102 This, had you just left the range where someone might have seen it and followed you? If so check the log at the range to see who was there. Even if they did not follow you they may have called someone to do the job. I am a long ways away but will keep an eye open for it.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Being covered up on the floor of the backseat I gotta think somebody KNEW that gun was there... P_102 Yeah, it sounds shady.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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I don't get why the victim is being bashed for having this rifle "covered up by other belongings, and in a case" in his locked truck. Who's to say he just came from the shooting range, or he may have just picked up the rifle from a gun smith. If you are a gun owner you can't tell me you have never had a gun small, or big in your truck. It's just that one time that turned into bad luck. On the other hand, if he did come from a range or a gun shop. I am willing to bet money on someone saw it and followed him to his first stop. Then again it could have been someone he knew.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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It looks pretty unique. Maybe it will turn up somewhere?
fouzman's rifle did I believe at a pawn show and he got it back. Yes, I did. And it was a guy who saw my post here that noticed the rifle in a pawn shop and notified me. I can't tell you how to prevent theft if you leave your rifle(s) in the truck like I did. I still blame myself even though we've all done it. Mine was parked next to my house, in a gated community. Not a public setting. Anyway, there are several things I can offer with respect to possibly recovering your firearms if they're ever stolen. -Write down all your serial numbers. Guns, rings, scopes, barrels, triggers anything that has a serial number, write it down. -Take photos and video of every one of them. -Engrave your identity on each gun in an inconspicuous area. -If stolen, go to the PD and file a report immediately. Having all of the aforementioned info will speed up that process. -Verify that your info has been entered into TCIC/NCIC so if your guns show up somewhere for sale and the buyer checks, they'll be flagged as stolen. -Check your insurance. If your guns are of significant value, you're going to need a rider on your homeowner's policy to cover them. That's about all the help I can offer. Very sorry for your loss OP and don't give up hope. You may get lucky and get it back like I did.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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It looks pretty unique. Maybe it will turn up somewhere?
fouzman's rifle did I believe at a pawn show and he got it back. Yes, I did. And it was a guy who saw my post here that noticed the rifle in a pawn shop and notified me. I can't tell you how to prevent theft if you leave your rifle(s) in the truck like I did. I still blame myself even though we've all done it. Mine was parked next to my house, in a gated community. Not a public setting. Anyway, there are several things I can offer with respect to possibly recovering your firearms if they're ever stolen. -Write down all your serial numbers. Guns, rings, scopes, barrels, triggers anything that has a serial number, write it down. -Take photos and video of every one of them. -Engrave your identity on each gun in an inconspicuous area. -If stolen, go to the PD and file a report immediately. Having all of the aforementioned info will speed up that process. -Verify that your info has been entered into TCIC/NCIC so if your guns show up somewhere for sale and the buyer checks, they'll be flagged as stolen. -Check your insurance. If your guns are of significant value, you're going to need a rider on your homeowner's policy to cover them. That's about all the help I can offer. Very sorry for your loss OP and don't give up hope. You may get lucky and get it back like I did. not sure were the gun was stolen... most stores do have security cams, sure the police checked that out... got my daughter & son-in-law one for Christmas, it was cheap, they up-dated it.. 9-11 changed the way we think... Never had a gun safe, doors left unlocked, then again, my guns weren't that expensive...
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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carrying and leaving a gun in your car...it's a decision only we can make,
Three things can happen
1. It gets stolen and you are out the $$ it costs. You drop your head, walk away knowing you took the chance and now its gone.
2. The police will take it as evidence if you have to use it to defend yourself. You may never see it again.
3. None of the above and you consider yourself lucky.
it's a coin toss,, yes, I keep a gun in my car all the time, so I have made the decision if it goes, it's gone.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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07/10/17 02:49 AM
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Good luck. I shared the info with a close relative who works the regional gun shows every weekend in north and west Texas.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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carrying and leaving a gun in your car...it's a decision only we can make,
Three things can happen
1. It gets stolen and you are out the $$ it costs. You drop your head, walk away knowing you took the chance and now its gone.
2. The police will take it as evidence if you have to use it to defend yourself. You may never see it again.
3. None of the above and you consider yourself lucky.
it's a coin toss,, yes, I keep a gun in my car all the time, so I have made the decision if it goes, it's gone. What was that license tag number again?
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Typical of this forum anymore, the holier than thou crew shows up and hijacks a thread. This guy asked for help and lo and behold, no one offers help.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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I hate thieves and hope they shoot themselves in the face with it. Sure hope it's recovered and returned. This
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Laying blame on this poor man for his rifle getting stolen is the same thing as if his beautiful wife was taken from the truck and raped. "He should have known better than to take such a pretty woman put in public."
insane So now we are comparing inanimate, replaceable firearms with human life?
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Laying blame on this poor man for his rifle getting stolen is the same thing as if his beautiful wife was taken from the truck and raped. "He should have known better than to take such a pretty woman put in public."
insane So now we are comparing inanimate, replaceable firearms with human life? You are both smart Men, and I think you know what he meant Sir. I leave guns in my truck when I must. Sometimes I leave my teenage daughter in the truck while I stop to get fuel & snacks going to & fro hunting. Many times my little kids are in the truck too. She (or her big brother) has a handgun near and knows how to use it but always in the back of my head when I let them out of my sight........ My guns are pretty. My daughter is pretty. Reach for either of those two things and whatever happens happens. There is no excuse for a thief period. Attempt to steal a gun from my truck or put your hands on my daughter, there is no difference in that. I think that was his point, and I'm pretty sure that's your's but I could be wrong. I hate thieves with a passion though and would have killed one if he didn't drop his crow bar. SO, in the grand scheme of things IMO yes Sir some of us relate inanimate objects with living breathing loved ones. Don't steal, and no worries...I absolutely hate a thief.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Laying blame on this poor man for his rifle getting stolen is the same thing as if his beautiful wife was taken from the truck and raped. "He should have known better than to take such a pretty woman put in public."
insane So now we are comparing inanimate, replaceable firearms with human life? You are both smart Men, and I think you know what he meant Sir. I leave guns in my truck when I must. Sometimes I leave my teenage daughter in the truck while I stop to get fuel & snacks going to & fro hunting. Many times my little kids are in the truck too. She (or her big brother) has a handgun near and knows how to use it but always in the back of my head when I let them out of my sight........ My guns are pretty. My daughter is pretty. Reach for either of those two things and whatever happens happens. There is no excuse for a thief period. Attempt to steal a gun from my truck or put your hands on my daughter, there is no difference in that. I think that was his point, and I'm pretty sure that's your's but I could be wrong. I hate thieves with a passion though and would have killed one if he didn't drop his crow bar. SO, in the grand scheme of things IMO yes Sir some of us relate inanimate objects with living breathing loved ones. Don't steal, and no worries...I absolutely hate a thief. Yes Sir!
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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I was hoping to see good news.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Sorry for your friend, just wondering where did this take place in San Antonio. I live here in San Antonio and was just wondering.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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are the scope rings silver or is it just the way the light hits it in the picture?
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Just wondering, you can put a chip in a pet so you can locate when lost. Can you do that to a gun to locate it when it is stolen ?
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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I'm sure it's possible just doubt anyone makes it. Just inject it in the stock or somewhere safe and it would work. Neat idea.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Just wondering, you can put a chip in a pet so you can locate when lost. Can you do that to a gun to locate it when it is stolen ? The chip most often used is not a GPS tracking device although I am sure it's available. It has to be scanned and checked against registration database's.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Serial numbers only help after the gun is found. They won't help him locate the stolen firearm. But you knew that before you replied. There is something called "tiles" that you can affix to anything. A computer search will show you where the tile is 24/7. I'm sure someone could figure out a way to discreetly install tiles on a firearm.
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remove stock or butt pad and put in either place . A small hole is all you would need I think. Just a thought ,
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Serial numbers only help after the gun is found. They won't help him locate the stolen firearm. But you knew that before you replied. There is something called "tiles" that you can affix to anything. A computer search will show you where the tile is 24/7. I'm sure someone could figure out a way to discreetly install tiles on a firearm. So you don't have them yet either and have no real knowledge of using them? We have them for keychains. Have had 3 brands so far. Not impressed with the technology. Between battery failures and unit failures, the system isn't terrible reliable that I can see. None are recoil rated. Many aren't weather-rated. "Tile" brand are waterproof, but they are far from being small and able to be readily discretely hidden on most rifles. And I just can see gun people installing electronic gizmos on their firearms...given all the fears about government tracking, etc. The other options are RFID chips that are very small and you could just drill a small hole and put them in the stock. They require no battery power and have a long, tested history of use, so I would best they may handle recoil well enough. They are waterproof and deal with that well enough. The problem with RFID chips is that you do have to have the item with the RFID chip in it first, PLUS, you have to have a RFID chip reader to see what is on the chip. Otherwise, it is pretty useless. Serial #s you can just read off the gun.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Double naught spy.. The downside to the chips is like you said, they have to be read. If someone thinks a rifle they have is stolen, they are not likely to allow anyone to read it. The person that would get caught is the honest guy who buys a stolen firearm (not knowing it was/is stolen) from a gun show and then somehow it gets scanned, and he finds out the hard way.
It's not like a long gun is going to have many opportunities to be scanned. Now if all stores had chip readers at the entrance, pistols could be scanned easily and that information uploaded to a police data base quite easily, and verified if they are stolen or not. I know many would be against this because it is more possibility for .gov intrusion. However, if homie is rollin' with a hot piece in his pantsline and stops up in Walmart for some cigarillos, he will get scanned on the way in and someones stolen pistol *could be* recovered, and a thug taken off the streets. I know.. the ability to track a firearm, any firearm, is going to fly like the Hindenburg.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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could bore a hollow area in the butt end of the stock and put a small GPS tracking device ... some are pretty small
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All, thanks for the comments here. Just joined the forum after I saw this posted on here. A little background for those making comments that they'd never put themselves in that situation and such.. I had gone to a long range shooting competition over 80 miles from San Antonio. No one followed me, no one knew what I had in the truck except me. While leaving the ranch I was at for the comp- I was asked by my wife to run an errand on the way home that involved me going to a furniture store off I-10 and Huebner in San Antonio. When I pulled into the parking lot there were four other cars there-including one other truck. Parked at the curb near the store in the parking lot(dedicated to that store-not shared with other stores) there was a white BMW sedan. I walked right by the BMW and went in the store. I had not planned on being there more than five minutes. Two minutes after walking in, two ladies came running in and asked if I had a silver truck-and told me they saw two young Hispanic males pulling bags out of my truck while the horn was honking.. I have a newer silver one ton Chevy..there were a Range Rover, a Acura, and a Mercedes in the lot in addition to a Dodge 2500. I parked in the first row right in front of the store. The rifle was in a drag bag on the floor board, covered in work clothes, work boots, hard hat, and a strudel from Haby's in Castroville(which the tasteless bastards didn't bother to take thankfully), and my son's car seat. The thieves were in the white BMW that was parked by the curb up front in the lot when I pulled in...further proof that I was not followed. Watched it all on camera afterwards and they were in and out of my truck in less than one minute..They punched my driver's door lock and pulled the bags out and were interrupted by the two ladies who notified me.. I have no stickers on my truck except a Texas A&M former students sticker and a Kerrville Tivy sticker. It was a pure crime of opportunity and they lucked out..but got a rifle that will be hard to sell... I have given the serial number to the police and it is registered as stolen nationally-so if the number gets run it'll show as stolen.. I've tried most of the tracking devices and none that are small enough to fit in a rifle actually work for this-at least what I've found. Most are made for lost keys and such that work off RFID or similar tech and require that you be within a 100' or so to get a signal...any battery operated GPS would not be practical on a rifle due to size. I'm still looking for the rifle every chance I get and will still gladly pay the reward if the rifle is found. Thank you all for the comments and help! -Jeff
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All, thanks for the comments here. Just joined the forum after I saw this posted on here. A little background for those making comments that they'd never put themselves in that situation and such.. I had gone to a long range shooting competition over 80 miles from San Antonio. No one followed me, no one knew what I had in the truck except me. While leaving the ranch I was at for the comp- I was asked by my wife to run an errand on the way home that involved me going to a furniture store off I-10 and Huebner in San Antonio. When I pulled into the parking lot there were four other cars there-including one other truck. Parked at the curb near the store in the parking lot(dedicated to that store-not shared with other stores) there was a white BMW sedan. I walked right by the BMW and went in the store. I had not planned on being there more than five minutes. Two minutes after walking in, two ladies came running in and asked if I had a silver truck-and told me they saw two young Hispanic males pulling bags out of my truck while the horn was honking.. I have a newer silver one ton Chevy..there were a Range Rover, a Acura, and a Mercedes in the lot in addition to a Dodge 2500. I parked in the first row right in front of the store. The rifle was in a drag bag on the floor board, covered in work clothes, work boots, hard hat, and a strudel from Haby's in Castroville(which the tasteless bastards didn't bother to take thankfully), and my son's car seat. The thieves were in the white BMW that was parked by the curb up front in the lot when I pulled in...further proof that I was not followed. Watched it all on camera afterwards and they were in and out of my truck in less than one minute..They punched my driver's door lock and pulled the bags out and were interrupted by the two ladies who notified me.. I have no stickers on my truck except a Texas A&M former students sticker and a Kerrville Tivy sticker. It was a pure crime of opportunity and they lucked out..but got a rifle that will be hard to sell... I have given the serial number to the police and it is registered as stolen nationally-so if the number gets run it'll show as stolen.. I've tried most of the tracking devices and none that are small enough to fit in a rifle actually work for this-at least what I've found. Most are made for lost keys and such that work off RFID or similar tech and require that you be within a 100' or so to get a signal...any battery operated GPS would not be practical on a rifle due to size. I'm still looking for the rifle every chance I get and will still gladly pay the reward if the rifle is found. Thank you all for the comments and help! -Jeff Welcome to the forum Jeff Hope you catch those POS in the BMW and get your rifle back!
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Welcome Rafter J I sure hope you find that gun.
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Welcome to the forum, sir. I wish it was under better circumstances. What do you mean they punched the door lock? Could you tell what they used to do it with? I've never heard of that before. And like what was said earlier, I would definitely check with the pawn shops. I work in one in Sherman, Tx. Some shops will work with you, but some are probably going to be rude and no help at all. I am one of those that hates thieves, along with my coworkers, and will do everything I can, legally, to help someone. I had my Ipad stolen from our shop and called around and had it back in two days. An employee at another pawn shop saw them and got their name and number, even their address. Needless to say, I got it back in a couple of hours after receiving that info. And I don't remember if you had recorded the serial number or not? I hope so. Good luck to you, and I hope they catch the dirty bastards that did this. I will certainly keep my eye out.
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I spend a while hitting pawn shops when a gun was stolen. I asked about the gun, I had pictures and told them I had reported it to the police. Everyone of them, without fail, said they were FFL licensed in order to buy and sell guns. Therefore they had to check to see if it was stolen, or it would show when they went to sell it. I do not know if this is true for all pawn shops, or that all of them do things legally, but it was for the ones I stopped at. I finally quit going to pawn shops and I would go to gun shows, check the newspaper, Texas Gun Trader etc. The part that sucks is that gun was probably sold for crack money, then sold to friend that hunted. It is probably pulled out a few times a year by the new owner and never seen by more than a few people. We can only hope it shows up.
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DG Ruff-thank you! I'm not certain of what tools are used to actually punch the lock, but the only door on my truck that has a keyed lock is the driver's door. From what I saw afterwards, with my lock cylinder laying on the ground along with part of my door handle-is that they used a slide hammer of sorts to jam it in the lockset and then violently pull it out. They broke the entire handle and lock mechanism-and did over $1000 in body damage to the door. In regards to the serial number-it is registered in NCIC/TCIC so if you run the serial number through the database-it will come up as stolen. The action is a Stiller Spectre-Long Action with the 20moa picatinny rail milled as one piece with the receiver. The Serial number begins with the letters SPC, the rifle is engraved as well with Texas Custom Rifles #87, and has Luke 8:10-15 on top of the barrel just forward of the stock. It was ceracoated to look like it was rusted-but that is easily changed with a can of spray paint.. Thanks for your help in looking out for this rifle!!
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Thank you too Simple Searcher! I'm not real hopeful any more-but you never know.. I'll save up again and build another some day, until then I've got other rifles-just not as nice as that one...
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I spend a while hitting pawn shops when a gun was stolen. I asked about the gun, I had pictures and told them I had reported it to the police. Everyone of them, without fail, said they were FFL licensed in order to buy and sell guns. Therefore they had to check to see if it was stolen, or it would show when they went to sell it. I do not know if this is true for all pawn shops, or that all of them do things legally, but it was for the ones I stopped at. Only morons knowingly pawn or sell stolen stuff to pawn shops because of the ID requirements for pawning and selling. Our family owned a small string of pawn shops for 25 years. Pawn shops are not what is represented of them in the past. They make a lot of money operating 100% legally. As FFLs, they are subject to FFL inspections. In Texas, pawned items (down to serial numbers and such) are going to be checked by law enforcement. Much of this is automated now, in fact (whereas back in the day, it was a manual process where pawn tickets were taken by the cops and manually entered into their system). If the items were pawned, the pawnbroker legally cannot tell you anything about them. All loans are confidential per law. If you have a pawn ticket, that is another matter and you may redeem the item, but if it was stolen, chances are that you don't have the pawn ticket. If you suspect a given pawnshop has your item(s), you need to go to the police, but otherwise, you would have to wait for the loan to expire for for the purchased item(s) pass the police check and see the item(s) out on the shelf. In short, it is a waste of time looking for items pawned to a pawn shop until after they are out for sale. Plus, if you tip off the pawnbroker about the item and said item comes in his/her store, he cannot legally make a loan on it or buy it given that he has been informed, by you, that it is stolen property. Knowingly making a loan on, or buying, stolen property is a criminal offense. So the slim chance that might have had for the item to end up in a pawn shop where it could be recovered through the police would be nullified. In this day and age, it is something of a historical myth to expect items in a pawn shop to be stolen or to find stolen items. There is just too much paperwork to make the process viable to criminals. What few stolen items that do end up in pawn shops are usually pawned by people who first purchased them elsewhere (potentially unknowingly from the criminal) and thought they had legal ownership. In our stores, less than 1% of pawned items were identified as stolen, much less. More than likely, such items are going to be sold FTF or in other uncontrolled market situations such as flea markets and such, not that you are apt to see a high end rifle in a flea market, but you get the idea.
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MY VERY expensive Luxus Model 11 was located in a pawn shop in Houston. The guy that pawned it had no criminal record but a pawn history a mile long. Most of what he pawned was tools and lawn equipment. How is the pawn shop going to determine if those tools were stolen? How did my stolen firearm, which was reported and "in the system", end up in a pawn shop?
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I spend a while hitting pawn shops when a gun was stolen. I asked about the gun, I had pictures and told them I had reported it to the police. Everyone of them, without fail, said they were FFL licensed in order to buy and sell guns. Therefore they had to check to see if it was stolen, or it would show when they went to sell it. I do not know if this is true for all pawn shops, or that all of them do things legally, but it was for the ones I stopped at. Only morons knowingly pawn or sell stolen stuff to pawn shops because of the ID requirements for pawning and selling. Our family owned a small string of pawn shops for 25 years. Pawn shops are not what is represented of them in the past. They make a lot of money operating 100% legally. As FFLs, they are subject to FFL inspections. In Texas, pawned items (down to serial numbers and such) are going to be checked by law enforcement. Much of this is automated now, in fact (whereas back in the day, it was a manual process where pawn tickets were taken by the cops and manually entered into their system). If the items were pawned, the pawnbroker legally cannot tell you anything about them. All loans are confidential per law. If you have a pawn ticket, that is another matter and you may redeem the item, but if it was stolen, chances are that you don't have the pawn ticket. If you suspect a given pawnshop has your item(s), you need to go to the police, but otherwise, you would have to wait for the loan to expire for for the purchased item(s) pass the police check and see the item(s) out on the shelf. In short, it is a waste of time looking for items pawned to a pawn shop until after they are out for sale. Plus, if you tip off the pawnbroker about the item and said item comes in his/her store, he cannot legally make a loan on it or buy it given that he has been informed, by you, that it is stolen property. Knowingly making a loan on, or buying, stolen property is a criminal offense. So the slim chance that might have had for the item to end up in a pawn shop where it could be recovered through the police would be nullified. In this day and age, it is something of a historical myth to expect items in a pawn shop to be stolen or to find stolen items. There is just too much paperwork to make the process viable to criminals. What few stolen items that do end up in pawn shops are usually pawned by people who first purchased them elsewhere (potentially unknowingly from the criminal) and thought they had legal ownership. In our stores, less than 1% of pawned items were identified as stolen, much less. More than likely, such items are going to be sold FTF or in other uncontrolled market situations such as flea markets and such, not that you are apt to see a high end rifle in a flea market, but you get the idea. I understand the point you're trying to make, but the fact is tons of morons do sell stolen property to pawn shops every single day. We still routinely find stolen property of all kinds in pawn shops. Criminals in general are basically a stupid group and when you throw dopers in the mix the sky's the limit. It's never a waste of time to search pawn shops. I'm not discounting the experience in your shops, but I can just about guarantee there was a lot of stolen property that just wasn't located. Also, in my experience privately owned shops tend to be more discriminating about what they take in than the corporate stores.
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They tracked a guy that robbed my sister's house a few years ago because he pawned a couple of the items. An undercover cop was watching his house when the guy came home. A few minutes later, the guy comes out, crosses the street, and goes behind a house out of view. 30 seconds later he comes back in to view carrying a weed-eater he just stole out of a garage. UC pulls up and arrests him. They found the rest of my sister's missing items in his house.
My sister actually did most of the detective work because she bothered to case local pawn shops until she found a couple of items she knew were hers, and the detectives then got the guy's name from the shops.
Crooks can be pretty stupid. Good luck!
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MY VERY expensive Luxus Model 11 was located in a pawn shop in Houston. The guy that pawned it had no criminal record but a pawn history a mile long. Most of what he pawned was tools and lawn equipment. How is the pawn shop going to determine if those tools were stolen? How did my stolen firearm, which was reported and "in the system", end up in a pawn shop? How were these things "found" in a pawn shop? Yep, people do pawn stolen stuff even though they are not criminals. More often than not, somebody made them a "deal" on the item. I am sure the guy who pawned the Lexus didn't have a legal title to car as that would have been caught at the DMV/tax office. The pawn shop does not determine if items are stolen or not. They take them in pawn and then get informed by law enforcement if something they have taken in has been reported stolen. However, if you take a picture around to pawn shops and show the pawn brokers you highly unique custom gun and tell them it is stolen, they are not apt to take that gun in pawn because they would know it was a stolen gun. I understand the point you're trying to make, but the fact is tons of morons do sell stolen property to pawn shops every single day. We still routinely find stolen property of all kinds in pawn shops. Criminals in general are basically a stupid group and when you throw dopers in the mix the sky's the limit. It's never a waste of time to search pawn shops. Some criminals are stupid. Many are not. As for "searching" pawnshops, sure you can go around looking in pawn shops and seeing what is out for sale and even asking if the pawnbroker has anything for sale that isn't out on display, but it would not be productive to tell him of your stolen highly unique custom gun.
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MY VERY expensive Luxus Model 11 was located in a pawn shop in Houston. The guy that pawned it had no criminal record but a pawn history a mile long. Most of what he pawned was tools and lawn equipment. How is the pawn shop going to determine if those tools were stolen? How did my stolen firearm, which was reported and "in the system", end up in a pawn shop? How were these things "found" in a pawn shop? Yep, people do pawn stolen stuff even though they are not criminals. More often than not, somebody made them a "deal" on the item. I am sure the guy who pawned the Lexus didn't have a legal title to car as that would have been caught at the DMV/tax office. The pawn shop does not determine if items are stolen or not. They take them in pawn and then get informed by law enforcement if something they have taken in has been reported stolen. However, if you take a picture around to pawn shops and show the pawn brokers you highly unique custom gun and tell them it is stolen, they are not apt to take that gun in pawn because they would know it was a stolen gun. I understand the point you're trying to make, but the fact is tons of morons do sell stolen property to pawn shops every single day. We still routinely find stolen property of all kinds in pawn shops. Criminals in general are basically a stupid group and when you throw dopers in the mix the sky's the limit. It's never a waste of time to search pawn shops. Most criminals are stupid. Some are not. As for "searching" pawnshops, sure you can go around looking in pawn shops and seeing what is out for sale and even asking if the pawnbroker has anything for sale that isn't out on display, but it would not be productive to tell him of your stolen highly unique custom gun. Fixed it for you. Prisons are overcrowded for a reason. Lol.
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MY VERY expensive Luxus Model 11 was located in a pawn shop in Houston. The guy that pawned it had no criminal record but a pawn history a mile long. Most of what he pawned was tools and lawn equipment. How is the pawn shop going to determine if those tools were stolen? How did my stolen firearm, which was reported and "in the system", end up in a pawn shop? How were these things "found" in a pawn shop? Yep, people do pawn stolen stuff even though they are not criminals. More often than not, somebody made them a "deal" on the item. I am sure the guy who pawned the Lexus didn't have a legal title to car as that would have been caught at the DMV/tax office. The pawn shop does not determine if items are stolen or not. They take them in pawn and then get informed by law enforcement if something they have taken in has been reported stolen. However, if you take a picture around to pawn shops and show the pawn brokers you highly unique custom gun and tell them it is stolen, they are not apt to take that gun in pawn because they would know it was a stolen gun. I understand the point you're trying to make, but the fact is tons of morons do sell stolen property to pawn shops every single day. We still routinely find stolen property of all kinds in pawn shops. Criminals in general are basically a stupid group and when you throw dopers in the mix the sky's the limit. It's never a waste of time to search pawn shops. Some criminals are stupid. Many are not. As for "searching" pawnshops, sure you can go around looking in pawn shops and seeing what is out for sale and even asking if the pawnbroker has anything for sale that isn't out on display, but it would not be productive to tell him of your stolen highly unique custom gun. Not a car.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170223065011/http:/www.rrdvegas.com/silencer-cleaning.html
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Never heard of it. So how was it "found"? You neglected that part.
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Fixed it for you. Prisons are overcrowded for a reason. Lol.
That would not be because of crazy laws and diligent law enforcement would at all, huh? Only the dumb and careless are in prisons and there are a lot, but there is a lot of unsolved crime as well. The OP is a classic example.
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Fixed it for you. Prisons are overcrowded for a reason. Lol.
That would not be because of crazy laws and diligent law enforcement would at all, huh? Only the dumb and careless are in prisons and there are a lot, but there is a lot of unsolved crime as well. The OP is a classic example. No it would not. Drugs and alcohol are the driving force as one of our members who is actually in law enforcement pointed out to you.
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Never heard of it. So how was it "found"? You neglected that part. I made a post on here about the five rifles I had stolen in 2014. Descriptions, serial numbers, etc. A couple years later, a guy contacted me on here and said he had seen one of the rifles on my list at a Cash America Pawn in N Houston. I called HPD and asked what to do and they told me to go to the pawn shop, but don't go in. Call HPD non-emergency number when I got to the pawn shop and they would send an officer out to handle it. They did, he and I went in, I identified my rifle and he put a tag on it prohibiting the pawn shop from moving the gun. The detective on my case went to the pawn shop the next day and retrieved my stolen weapon.
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Hey Fouz, I remember that well, did they bust the guys and recover any of the other guns?
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This should make everyone think twice when stopping. I bury my stuff in the bed when going to a place like Buccees and leave my boy in the truck with windows down when I need to go in. I feel safer with them in the back of the bed covered than inside the truck. Thinking about getting a bed cover.
Talking to a gunsmith last year that was in Houston shooting matches and they were broken into. HPD called years later and had some of their guns. You never know.
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Just bringing this back up to spread the word again. Hoping with all the new members maybe it can be found.
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They should outlaw pawn shops, they're nothing but a haven for stolen items, or a store that takes advantage of people in dire financial straights, often strung out on drugs.
"hey that's a really nice diamond ring... 1 carat, 14 K gold... yeah, we'll give you $35 for it"
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They should outlaw pawn shops, they're nothing but a haven for stolen items, or a store that takes advantage of people in dire financial straights, often strung out on drugs.
"hey that's a really nice diamond ring... 1 carat, 14 K gold... yeah, we'll give you $35 for it" There is a whole lot of ignorance in your statement. Very little in pawn shops is stolen. It is all checked through the police. They do not take advantage of anybody as you claim. NOBODY has to accept what they offer and the people enter pawn shops on a completely voluntary basis. They are in the business of making what are considered to be high risk loans, plain and simple. As for the 1 carat 14k diamond ring and $35, it would have to be an awful piece of crap to offer that little on a pawn or a purchase. Are the people in dire straits? Some are. Many are not. Of those that are, they are often the ones that have already destroyed their ability to get credit from banks or other lending institutions, have either worn out their welcome in borrowing from friends and family or have no friends and family, or simply otherwise have nowhere else to turn. If the pawn shops were not there, then what would the people do? You aren't going to help them. A lot of people simply have a short term financial issue and need a little help carrying over until their next paycheck. As for those dire straits people, I can tell you this. I watched a lot of people pawn their belongings and walk across the street to buy beer and cigarettes, or go into a bar. Where pawn shops make a significant portion of their money is in the interest generated from loans, interest that is set by the state. Pawn shops want repeat business. They are not there to snatch up everybody's belongings. However, if you think they should be outlawed, then please propose a method on how you would help out those people that you are talking about that would be wholly righteous in your view.
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They should outlaw pawn shops, they're nothing but a haven for stolen items, or a store that takes advantage of people in dire financial straights, often strung out on drugs.
"hey that's a really nice diamond ring... 1 carat, 14 K gold... yeah, we'll give you $35 for it" There is a whole lot of ignorance in your statement. Very little in pawn shops is stolen. It is all checked through the police. They do not take advantage of anybody as you claim. NOBODY has to accept what they offer and the people enter pawn shops on a completely voluntary basis. They are in the business of making what are considered to be high risk loans, plain and simple. As for the 1 carat 14k diamond ring and $35, it would have to be an awful piece of crap to offer that little on a pawn or a purchase. Are the people in dire straits? Some are. Many are not. Of those that are, they are often the ones that have already destroyed their ability to get credit from banks or other lending institutions, have either worn out their welcome in borrowing from friends and family or have no friends and family, or simply otherwise have nowhere else to turn. If the pawn shops were not there, then what would the people do? You aren't going to help them. A lot of people simply have a short term financial issue and need a little help carrying over until their next paycheck. As for those dire straits people, I can tell you this. I watched a lot of people pawn their belongings and walk across the street to buy beer and cigarettes, or go into a bar. Where pawn shops make a significant portion of their money is in the interest generated from loans, interest that is set by the state. Pawn shops want repeat business. They are not there to snatch up everybody's belongings. However, if you think they should be outlawed, then please propose a method on how you would help out those people that you are talking about that would be wholly righteous in your view. "very little in pawn shops is stolen".. LMFAO!!! I'm sure the police pour over every single dewalt angle grinder that comes through the front door in an effort to insure it wasn't reported stolen the only defense to that argument is most items can't be proven to be stolen because most items don't have a serial number. For items that do (outside of firearms), do you have a list of serial numbers for computers, TVs, vacuum cleaners, and angle grinders? I don't
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I buy from a local Pawn Shop. They sell new and used guns, and will order anything I want at good prices. Good people, long term business owners in the community. I also bought some tools from them at a good price. There are a lot of places that stolen goods can be sold where you aren't on camera and have to show ID. Calling for the closing of all pawn shops isn't only an unfair characterization of a group, it's not helpful to the OP. Do you also have a plan in mind for stopping the sale of stolen property on Craigs List, EBAY and Flea Markets?
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They should outlaw pawn shops, they're nothing but a haven for stolen items, or a store that takes advantage of people in dire financial straights, often strung out on drugs.
"hey that's a really nice diamond ring... 1 carat, 14 K gold... yeah, we'll give you $35 for it" There is a whole lot of ignorance in your statement. Very little in pawn shops is stolen. It is all checked through the police. They do not take advantage of anybody as you claim. NOBODY has to accept what they offer and the people enter pawn shops on a completely voluntary basis. They are in the business of making what are considered to be high risk loans, plain and simple. As for the 1 carat 14k diamond ring and $35, it would have to be an awful piece of crap to offer that little on a pawn or a purchase. Are the people in dire straits? Some are. Many are not. Of those that are, they are often the ones that have already destroyed their ability to get credit from banks or other lending institutions, have either worn out their welcome in borrowing from friends and family or have no friends and family, or simply otherwise have nowhere else to turn. If the pawn shops were not there, then what would the people do? You aren't going to help them. A lot of people simply have a short term financial issue and need a little help carrying over until their next paycheck. As for those dire straits people, I can tell you this. I watched a lot of people pawn their belongings and walk across the street to buy beer and cigarettes, or go into a bar. Where pawn shops make a significant portion of their money is in the interest generated from loans, interest that is set by the state. Pawn shops want repeat business. They are not there to snatch up everybody's belongings. However, if you think they should be outlawed, then please propose a method on how you would help out those people that you are talking about that would be wholly righteous in your view. I had five rifles stolen several years ago. The only one I have recovered thus far was located in a CashAmerica Pawn in NW Houston. For every honest pawnshop operator, there are many more who know how to skirt the rules. And the police didn't find my rifle but, once I knew where it was, they came and took it away. And it was registered as stolen. Serial # and everything but, there it was, on their shelf. The detective on my case said the guy who pawned my rifle had a long list of pawns of tools and lawn equipment but no arrests and no convictions. Yeah, I'm sure that pawn shop has checked all those tools and pieces of lawn equipment, too.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Blame the police if your rifle wasn't found. The pawnbroker at Cash America wasn't charged with receiving and hiding stolen merchandise, right? Had the rifle been there without proper documentation provided to the cops, then they would have been in violation of the law. The police simply collected the rifle because they didn't do their job in the first place.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Nope, but the manager who took the gun in was fired.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Blame the police if your rifle wasn't found. The pawnbroker at Cash America wasn't charged with receiving and hiding stolen merchandise, right? Had the rifle been there without proper documentation provided to the cops, then they would have been in violation of the law. The police simply collected the rifle because they didn't do their job in the first place. yeah, I'm sure when the crackhead and gang bangers roll in their store toting a nice rifle the first thing the managers of Cash america think is "golly gee, I'm going to help this nice outdoor enthusiast out with a short term loan" the business model is to buy stolen [censored], and hope they can flip it before the actual owners find it. That's the number 1 reason why pawn shops move their inventory around. they move an item sold in dallas to a store in san antonio. Has nothing to do with the "market", it has everything to do with hiding merchandise.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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My rifle was worth 5 figures. They had it on the shelf for $1,700. Thank God I found it before someone who knew what they were looking at did. Move it and move it quick!
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I don't take a post like this serious. Blame the police if your rifle wasn't found. The pawnbroker at Cash America wasn't charged with receiving and hiding stolen merchandise, right? Had the rifle been there without proper documentation provided to the cops, then they would have been in violation of the law. The police simply collected the rifle because they didn't do their job in the first place. yeah, I'm sure when the crackhead and gang bangers roll in their store toting a nice rifle the first thing the managers of Cash america think is "golly gee, I'm going to help this nice outdoor enthusiast out with a short term loan" the business model is to buy stolen [censored], and hope they can flip it before the actual owners find it. That's the number 1 reason why pawn shops move their inventory around. they move an item sold in dallas to a store in san antonio. Has nothing to do with the "market", it has everything to do with hiding merchandise.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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I don't take a post like this serious. Blame the police if your rifle wasn't found. The pawnbroker at Cash America wasn't charged with receiving and hiding stolen merchandise, right? Had the rifle been there without proper documentation provided to the cops, then they would have been in violation of the law. The police simply collected the rifle because they didn't do their job in the first place. yeah, I'm sure when the crackhead and gang bangers roll in their store toting a nice rifle the first thing the managers of Cash america think is "golly gee, I'm going to help this nice outdoor enthusiast out with a short term loan" the business model is to buy stolen [censored], and hope they can flip it before the actual owners find it. That's the number 1 reason why pawn shops move their inventory around. they move an item sold in dallas to a store in san antonio. Has nothing to do with the "market", it has everything to do with hiding merchandise. Which one?
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Fouzman, this one "yeah, I'm sure when the crackhead and gang bangers roll in their store toting a nice rifle the first thing the managers of Cash america think is "golly gee, I'm going to help this nice outdoor enthusiast out with a short term loan"
the business model is to buy stolen [censored], and hope they can flip it before the actual owners find it. That's the number 1 reason why pawn shops move their inventory around. they move an item sold in dallas to a store in san antonio. Has nothing to do with the "market", it has everything to do with hiding merchandise."
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Fouzman, this one "yeah, I'm sure when the crackhead and gang bangers roll in their store toting a nice rifle the first thing the managers of Cash america think is "golly gee, I'm going to help this nice outdoor enthusiast out with a short term loan"
the business model is to buy stolen [censored], and hope they can flip it before the actual owners find it. That's the number 1 reason why pawn shops move their inventory around. they move an item sold in dallas to a store in san antonio. Has nothing to do with the "market", it has everything to do with hiding merchandise." I don't take it serious when people try to say pawn shops are in business for the betterment of society. so there's that.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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Anyone that thinks all pawn shops are on the up-and-up is fooling themselves.
I have a lawyer friend that gets guns as payment for defending criminals that cannot pay, the court will award him the gun to recover expenses. He was taking the guns to a pawn shop that was buying the guns. He was getting about 1/10th the value or less, like $50 for a Ruger 1911. When I found out I was blown away. He now sells me guns at a good deal, I can keep or resell. Pawn shops were ripping him off plain and simple. Just because he went in on his own will doesn't for some unknown reason make what they are doing to people right. This is what they do to thieves, quick turn around, little money.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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You insulted pawn shops while stepping in your own crap. You buy guns from criminals through an intermediary, which you resell. Do you report the profits on the sell of these as income to the IRS? Pawn shops do, along with payroll taxes, store front rent, liability insurance, license fees, etc...(overhead). Their costs are high, unlike yours on the sales you make. They also run background checks on all sales through the ATF. I don't know who you're talking to when you say "Anyone that thinks...." because I know that most things in life are not 100%. I'm not in the pawn business, but I gotta' ask, what makes you or your lawyer friend that defends criminals, and you who ends up with their guns any different from the negative image you are perpetuating on the pawn industry? Anyone that thinks all pawn shops are on the up-and-up is fooling themselves.
I have a lawyer friend that gets guns as payment for defending criminals that cannot pay, the court will award him the gun to recover expenses. He was taking the guns to a pawn shop that was buying the guns. He was getting about 1/10th the value or less, like $50 for a Ruger 1911. When I found out I was blown away. He now sells me guns at a good deal, I can keep or resell. Pawn shops were ripping him off plain and simple. Just because he went in on his own will doesn't for some unknown reason make what they are doing to people right. This is what they do to thieves, quick turn around, little money.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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A TFF member contacted me this morning to learn about the hearing process to recover stolen property. See, he had a break in at his home awhile back. Much of his stuff has been found at local pawn shops. Yep, pawn shops are real honest operators. Anyone who believes that has their head up their arse.
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Re: Stolen Long Range Custom Rifle!!!! $1000 Reward!
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A TFF member contacted me this morning to learn about the hearing process to recover stolen property. See, he had a break in at his home awhile back. Much of his stuff has been found at local pawn shops. Yep, pawn shops are real honest operators. Anyone who believes that has their head up their arse. I'm sure it was a simple misunderstanding. It was probably a neurosurgeon that sold the firearms, and since the pawn shop was paying fair market value, they thought it was a legitimate sell.
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