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#6804558 - 06/26/17 10:38 AM Snake bite
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Saw this about a guy in the Lubbock area getting bit..

Snakebite article

The surprising thing to me was what they said not to do, which are most of the things I would have done. I carry a snake bite kit in my pack, that is to do these very things as well. Is it time to pitch it?
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#6804618 - 06/26/17 11:41 AM Re: Snake bite [Re: CharlieCTx]
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I saw an article once that had a list of things to do if you get bit. Every other item on the list was "Stay Calm."

1. Stay Calm.
2. Call or drive for help.
3. Stay Calm
4. If possible, get a picture of the snake for identification. Do not try to kill the snake and bring it to the hospital with you.
5. Stay Calm...

And so on. Basically, don't do anything but keep your heart rate down and get to the hospital.

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#6804799 - 06/26/17 01:40 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: CharlieCTx]
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Pitch the snake bite kit. You certainly don't want to be cutting on yourself and the notion that you or the kit will be able to suck the venom out is just plain bunk.

http://www.amazingoutdooradventures.com/do-snake-bite-kits-work/

Basically, people end up doing something stupid like cutting an artery or the just plain end up wasting time.
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#6805017 - 06/26/17 04:56 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: CharlieCTx]
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Yeah, toss the kit, identify the snake if possible, and get to the ER. The snake ID is important because the antivenoms are specific. I had my dad at the ER for a health issue so I was poking around in our little ER and saw the antivenom cabinet. Everything ID'd by the snake. They also said it makes it tougher for them if the snake is not known. I guess in urban areas where exotics are not that unusual, it gets even tougher because someone will come in and say they were bitten by their pet cobra but the antivenom is subspecies specific and the wrong subspecies venom can kill you. Another reason not to have a pet snake.

While my dad and I were at the ER, darn if some dude didn't come in with a bite. He was in a bad way. I don't think they dropped everything and headed for the ER. They took him straight to ICU. So, I asked my doc how many snake bites they see a year. He said 12 to 18. That number surprised me.
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#6805031 - 06/26/17 05:13 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: CharlieCTx]
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Hey, check this out. My dad just brought over the Victoria Advocate and the front page story is about snakes on the coastal plains. Here you go...

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#6805035 - 06/26/17 05:19 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: CharlieCTx]
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cool $150,000 medical bill
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#6805039 - 06/26/17 05:23 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: CharlieCTx]
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80 dose of antivenom, could be close to half a million dollar bill.

In Sri Lanka, its $30 a vile by snake , somethings off hear.

If a man were smart (or dumb) he would start a venom collecting business.
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#6805054 - 06/26/17 05:39 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: Ranch Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Ranch Dog
Yeah, toss the kit, identify the snake if possible, and get to the ER. The snake ID is important because the antivenoms are specific. I had my dad at the ER for a health issue so I was poking around in our little ER and saw the antivenom cabinet. Everything ID'd by the snake. They also said it makes it tougher for them if the snake is not known. I guess in urban areas where exotics are not that unusual, it gets even tougher because someone will come in and say they were bitten by their pet cobra but the antivenom is subspecies specific and the wrong subspecies venom can kill you. Another reason not to have a pet snake.

While my dad and I were at the ER, darn if some dude didn't come in with a bite. He was in a bad way. I don't think they dropped everything and headed for the ER. They took him straight to ICU. So, I asked my doc how many snake bites they see a year. He said 12 to 18. That number surprised me.


Are you talking about subspecies of rattlers, copperheads and cotton mouths?

I'm only aware of two being carried, CroFab for all North American Vipers and Coralmyn for Coral Snakes.


Edited by HWY_MAN (06/26/17 06:29 PM)
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#6805183 - 06/26/17 07:28 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: CharlieCTx]
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I was watching a TV show about the snakes in Sri Lanka, They said the most poisonous snakebites than anywhere else. Cobras, Kraits, Gaboon Vipers and a bunch of others. Rice and tea are the major crops and these snakes thrive.

They have an anti venom by each species and can be bought for $25-$35 a vile.

Here the CroFab is $30,000 per vile or something crazy like this. There are two others made by CroFab but are just as expensive. Its crazy, hell, I'd die when I opened the Hospital Bill.

Also, most insurance coverage has very minimal coverage compared to the costs.
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#6805211 - 06/26/17 07:46 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: CharlieCTx]
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Best treatment for a poisonous snake bite is high flow diesel or gasoline.
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#6805244 - 06/26/17 08:17 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Best treatment for a poisonous snake bite is high flow diesel or gasoline.

With lights and sirens if able

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#6805279 - 06/26/17 08:34 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: CharlieCTx]
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Didn't know those things were still around, trash it.

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#6805334 - 06/26/17 08:58 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: HWY_MAN]
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Originally Posted By: HWY_MAN
Originally Posted By: Ranch Dog
Yeah, toss the kit, identify the snake if possible, and get to the ER. The snake ID is important because the antivenoms are specific. I had my dad at the ER for a health issue so I was poking around in our little ER and saw the antivenom cabinet. Everything ID'd by the snake. They also said it makes it tougher for them if the snake is not known. I guess in urban areas where exotics are not that unusual, it gets even tougher because someone will come in and say they were bitten by their pet cobra but the antivenom is subspecies specific and the wrong subspecies venom can kill you. Another reason not to have a pet snake.

While my dad and I were at the ER, darn if some dude didn't come in with a bite. He was in a bad way. I don't think they dropped everything and headed for the ER. They took him straight to ICU. So, I asked my doc how many snake bites they see a year. He said 12 to 18. That number surprised me.


Are you talking about subspecies of rattlers, copperheads and cotton mouths?

I'm only aware of two being carried, CroFab for all North American Vipers and Coralmyn for Coral Snakes.
last I heard, there is no anti venom for coral snake, good go know that its avaialable
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#6805346 - 06/26/17 09:03 PM Re: Snake bite [Re: CharlieCTx]
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In the cases, I saw boxes stacked with pictures of a rattler and then with a coral snake on them so that is probably the products. I really can't remember if the pictures were on the boxes or above the rack of boxes.

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#6805703 - 06/27/17 08:17 AM Re: Snake bite [Re: blazin]
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Originally Posted By: blazin
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Best treatment for a poisonous snake bite is high flow diesel or gasoline.

With lights and sirens if able


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