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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: leswad]
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06/02/17 12:52 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Wonder what would happen to these turbines if the subsidies were to ever go away? We would have more clean coal and NG planets. My ranch is getting turbines to meet green energy requirement for the South East US..... 1500 miles of transition lines. Dumb. But what ever
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
#6781710
06/02/17 12:56 PM
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500' in every direction-no build. The gravel road they build is one of the best. Noise is not a problem. Size matters on the turbine vs how much money you get.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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06/02/17 10:43 PM
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fishon1017
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In regards to Subsidies in South Dakota, the company that pays the initial capital for the turbines and roads and such are getting subsidies. What happens after that is they will sell everything to another company. It's an incentive to get wind up and running. A lot of times the same company will keep the investment.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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06/02/17 11:12 PM
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Wilhunt
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If you don't agree with the installation when they are interested, you can bet they will approach your neighbors.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: bp3]
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06/04/17 11:38 AM
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txbobcat
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Better than a oil or gas well. Heck no
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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06/04/17 02:41 PM
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captmike
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What does the taxes do to you on your place when you have turbines? I know you still can keep ag not sure about wildlife, just curious. They get 5-10 year tax break when installed from county.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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06/04/17 04:06 PM
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bp3
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Oil and gas wells deplete in a year
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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06/08/17 10:19 AM
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trash2
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If it pays the note why not do it and put your current payment into a new place? Seems like youre on the cusp of having 710 acres, half pristine and half w a few eye soars
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: trash2]
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06/08/17 01:57 PM
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krmitchell
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If it pays the note why not do it and put your current payment into a new place? Seems like youre on the cusp of having 710 acres, half pristine and half w a few eye soars Exactly what I was thinking.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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06/09/17 01:00 AM
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Leonardo
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Read the contract very well. My uncle decided it wasnt worth it after reading. A lot of verbage pertaining to how much pay he would receive annually.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
#6795396
06/16/17 08:36 PM
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Woodlands Water Turkey
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I work in the wind industry. Typically, we clear about 2 acres for the pad. You can ask if they will build a smaller pad. We have some that are about an acre and the farmer plants right up to it. On the payments, some companies offer a fixed annual payment or an annual royalty based on that turbine performance. Bigger risk/reward based on royalties. I've seen the annual payments be in the $5000-$10,000/turbine range. I've seen royalties up to $20,000 acres. The Production Tax Credit (subsidy) goes away in 2020. Right now wind and solar are at about the same cost of energy as natural gas and it gets cheaper every year to build and operate wind farms. Never heard of a blade being thrown a mile. Sounds like an anti-wind old wives tale. Also, there should be no turbines built within 1.1 times the height of a property line. That is a typical setback in the industry. As yes, you're neighbor will take the turbines if you don't want them. I have seen no wildlife impacts on a property based on wind turbine placement. Wind turbines help a lot of ranchers and farmers stay on their land. The local communities and school districts also receive alot of tax revenue.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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06/17/17 10:21 PM
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krmitchell
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: bp3]
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10/21/17 12:01 PM
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lthomas132
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Oil and gas wells deplete in a year If a well depletes in a year, it was a really dumb operator that drilled it! Good production will last many, many years. I know, I'm in the bidness!
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, beer in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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10/21/17 03:59 PM
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bp3
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Yea, I worked on a lot of stripper wells over the 35 years in the service industry. Plus I have Royalty on some wells. Over head can eat a operator up, hauling salt water, electric bills, pumpers, pump replacements, work over rigs etc. The wind chargers just keep turning and land owners average 800 bucks per month. Flush production from a new well looks great but unless it's in a hot area it can be tough. If buying working interest in wells you better know the operator real good because some will operate you to death.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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10/21/17 06:44 PM
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TexasUplander
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when the government subsidies quit, how much will they pay a year or month?
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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10/23/17 08:59 PM
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The turbine was on a ridge, Foote Creek in Wyoming and that sure helped it travel such a distance, documented. Looks like a tower failure somehow due to the high winds and blade failure. 2011
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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10/23/17 10:12 PM
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TexasUplander]
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10/24/17 01:33 AM
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BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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when the government subsidies quit, how much will they pay a year or month? the subsidy is in the build. Better question is or will there be an interest in replacing them after thier useful life with out susbidies
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: bp3]
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10/31/17 01:05 AM
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txtrophy85
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Better than a oil or gas well. No way, and from a real estate standpoint it devalues your land even more. Wind turbines are a plague on the landscape
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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10/31/17 01:39 AM
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Not better that oil--but it is $, for the next 40 years.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
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11/08/17 11:02 PM
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RockDocJoe
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Not better that oil--but it is $, for the next 40 years. Most studies use a life span of 20-25 years, so 40 years may be an overestimate. The reclamation bond, IMHO is the most important aspect. If they pay for your ranch for the next 20 years, that's great, but you don't want to get stuck paying to get it back to how you want it for the 20 years after they're done with it.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: TTT Ranch]
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11/09/17 07:34 PM
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Have you seen the copper and metal in that gizmo? $$$-also, what a great deer blind.
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
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11/14/17 01:05 AM
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danceswithquail
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I fought a farm coming in around me with an attorney until two of my neighbors next to me rolled over. I dont have any on my land but do get an annual royalty. Dont expect to ever get more than 7K a year from a turbine, no matter what the Wind land man tells you. Cant stand them and have been on again and off again about selling my place. The worse scenario is when there is just barely enough wind to turn them because they are at a higher elevation but it feels/sounds calm at ground level. Sounds like listening to a babys heart beat on a sonogram cranked up to about 80 decibels (the closest one from the ranch house is about 1200 feet). Figured it dropped selling price of my place around $250K
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Re: Wind turbines on ranches
[Re: danceswithquail]
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11/14/17 05:23 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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I fought a farm coming in around me with an attorney until two of my neighbors next to me rolled over. I dont have any on my land but do get an annual royalty. Dont expect to ever get more than 7K a year from a turbine, no matter what the Wind land man tells you. Cant stand them and have been on again and off again about selling my place. The worse scenario is when there is just barely enough wind to turn them because they are at a higher elevation but it feels/sounds calm at ground level. Sounds like listening to a babys heart beat on a sonogram cranked up to about 80 decibels (the closest one from the ranch house is about 1200 feet). Figured it dropped selling price of my place around $250K Interesting no more then 7k? Regardless of contract?
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