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#6794881 - 06/16/17 07:26 AM What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle?
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I've noticed that Henry offers several rifle models that shoot traditional handgun caliber bullets.

So what's the attraction in shooting a rifle with such poor distance-shooting performance? For example, a .357 would need to be zeroed almost 8 inches high at 100 yards for a 150 yard zero. A typical rifle caliber would require only an inch or so of height at 100 yards for that same zero distance.

Perhaps owners are shooting their own hand loads to get better performance.


Edited by Texas Dan (06/16/17 07:31 AM)
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#6794886 - 06/16/17 07:28 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Lots of ammo, low recoil, higher performance of the cartridge. But in my opinion it's for 100 yards and less.

Look up what a .44 mag can do coming out of a 16" barrel.

Plus, lever actions are fun!
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#6794889 - 06/16/17 07:31 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: Texas Dan]
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What JG said.
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#6794891 - 06/16/17 07:31 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Mostly carbines for saddle carry and short range work. In 44 magnum it makes a perfect rifle side arm combo with ammunition for both. One of my favorite thick cover rifles is the Win 94AE trapper with the Taurus Tracker on my hip.
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#6794978 - 06/16/17 08:41 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Use the rifle to fight off Injuns, the Colt is to hammer wire staples into the fence. You can use a rock, but people used to look funny when they walked into the saloon carrying a rock. Same caliber just made it simpler to keep up with ammo.
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#6794984 - 06/16/17 08:46 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Thanks for the replies.

Yes, having separate tools for close up and distance work makes a lot of sense for the guy living on the range, as does both taking the same bullets
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#6794987 - 06/16/17 08:49 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: blackcoal]
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Originally Posted By: blackcoal
Use the rifle to fight off Injuns, the Colt is to hammer wire staples into the fence. You can use a rock, but people used to look funny when they walked into the saloon carrying a rock. Same caliber just made it simpler to keep up with ammo.


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#6794993 - 06/16/17 08:51 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: Texas Dan]
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ruger 44 carbine is a "hoot to shoot" comes in handy for that 2 and 3 pig. makes a good house gun, would work for camp gun
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#6794998 - 06/16/17 08:54 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
I've noticed that Henry offers several rifle models that shoot traditional handgun caliber bullets.

So what's the attraction in shooting a rifle with such poor distance-shooting performance? For example, a .357 would need to be zeroed almost 8 inches high at 100 yards for a 150 yard zero. A typical rifle caliber would require only an inch or so of height at 100 yards for that same zero distance.

Perhaps owners are shooting their own hand loads to get better performance.


Your assuming these calibers will be used in traditional type hunting and distances. Get into the thick stuff with an open sight 44 or 45 after hogs or javalina's and you'll be glad you left the scoped bolt rifle in the truck.
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#6795004 - 06/16/17 08:58 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: HWY_MAN]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
I've noticed that Henry offers several rifle models that shoot traditional handgun caliber bullets.

So what's the attraction in shooting a rifle with such poor distance-shooting performance? For example, a .357 would need to be zeroed almost 8 inches high at 100 yards for a 150 yard zero. A typical rifle caliber would require only an inch or so of height at 100 yards for that same zero distance.

Perhaps owners are shooting their own hand loads to get better performance.


Your assuming these calibers will be used in traditional type hunting and distances. Get into the thick stuff with an open sight 44 or 45 after hogs or javalina's and you'll be glad you left the scoped bolt rifle in the truck.


Yessir. I've got lots of creek bottoms around me with big timber. If I'm planning on going on walk about in that, there's nothing better than my lever action with irons. Though it's a 30-30, the point is the same. And a brass front post is mo betta than a blued steel front post.
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#6795037 - 06/16/17 09:26 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Got a buddy that loves western style wheel guns. Several years ago he started buying lever guns in the Same cal. As his revolvers so the ammo was shared between the two. He has several antique colts in Verying calibers and the lever guns to match.
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#6795051 - 06/16/17 09:34 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: Texas Dan]
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I just enjoy shooting.
Pistol cal lets you shoot more for less.

Had a 22 cal AR and while it felt like an AR weight wise, it felt like a bb gun when you shot it.

I have a 16" 9MM AR fun gun now and really like it.
I carry it on my 4wheeler most of the time putting around the ranch.
With it sighted for 50 yards, I can still reliably ring steel gongs at 100 yards.
It feels more like a standard AR when you shoot is as it has more recoil than the .22.
It's pretty accurate at 50 yards shooting less than 2" groups reliably.
It takes Glock mags so they are readily available and it has only malfunctioned 1 time in 600 rounds.
With standard load 147gr FMJs it is subsonic out of the 16" barrel so it's really quiet.

It's a favorite at range day because the kids and ladies can shoot it and since it's AR based, everything is located in the same place and functions the same so it breeds familiarity when they transfer to a regular AR.


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#6795083 - 06/16/17 10:07 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: Texas Dan]
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I have a beretta cx4 storm in 9mm. It is a short carbine semi auto. I got it in a trade and I like you didn't understand what it could be good for. Now I won't ever get rid of it and like most say it is just fun to shoot. It is also a favorite of the Grand Kids. It has now become one of my home protection guns. It now has a tlr-1 lite with a red dot scope on it. It is short and easy to maneuver in the house and it is something the wife is comfortable in using.
But most of all it is fun.
Have someone let you shoot theirs and you will understand.
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#6795090 - 06/16/17 10:14 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Cuz its America!? End of times? Bug out?
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#6795116 - 06/16/17 10:42 AM Re: What's the attraction in shooting handgun calibers from a rifle? [Re: blackcoal]
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Originally Posted By: blackcoal
Use the rifle to fight off Injuns, the Colt is to hammer wire staples into the fence. You can use a rock, but people used to look funny when they walked into the saloon carrying a rock. Same caliber just made it simpler to keep up with ammo.


Yes, once all the wars with the natives and outlaws were over, gun manufacturers turned their attention to new calibers and cartridges designed solely for distance work. Gun owners today, including many of you, have rediscovered the practicality of having a rifle and hand shooter that fire the same bullets.

Firearm history really is fascinating when you think about it.


Edited by Texas Dan (06/16/17 10:49 AM)
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