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#6793555 - 06/14/17 05:47 PM Coyotes and Fawn Losses
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Friend of mine got this picture a couple of days ago here in DeWitt County.

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#6793592 - 06/14/17 06:31 PM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Ranch Dog]
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They get more than most on here would care to admit. I have always heard the coyotes are good for the environment. They only take the sick or old. That is BS. Years ago when I had sheep and 1080 was still legal I had the collars that had 1080 in them and put them on old sheep. The coyotes never killed one of them just the young lambs. Oh, and I forgot to mention. I hate coyotes probably more than any other thing in the world.
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#6793623 - 06/14/17 07:00 PM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Ranch Dog]
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Sad. Just sent this to my landowner. She loves ALL the wildlife that pops up on her cameras but I may get the green light for predator hunting soon. Lol

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#6793675 - 06/14/17 07:43 PM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Ranch Dog]
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Side note: what is your friend tying to keep out of that pen. That thing has a lot of t-posts.
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#6793684 - 06/14/17 07:53 PM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Ranch Dog]
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80% of the fawns that don't make it will die in the mouths of coyotes. All other reasons account for the remaining 20% of those that don't survive their first year.

They will also team up to run an adult deer to the point of exhaustion and then take it down. I have seen it happen.

I never give a coyote a pass and never hesitate to bust a hunt to kill one.
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#6793685 - 06/14/17 07:53 PM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Ranch Dog]
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Another one for the coyote haters
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#6793688 - 06/14/17 07:57 PM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Simple Searcher]
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Originally Posted By: Simple Searcher
Another one for the coyote haters


Deer feeders create great opportunities for coyotes to sit and wait for doe to show up with fawns. They will sit and watch them just like you do.
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#6793725 - 06/14/17 08:30 PM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Texas Dan]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Originally Posted By: Simple Searcher
Another one for the coyote haters


Deer feeders create great opportunities for coyotes to sit and wait for doe to show up with fawns. They will sit and watch them just like you do.


I believe that to be true also. I can't prove it with empirical evidence, but have seen them hang around feeders to kill coons/squirrels in the fall - mostly trail camera pics with some direct observation also. I never ran feeders in the spring anyway. Now I don't run them at all. That's not the main reason I quit, but do I believe not concentrating prey (and thus predators) is a great byproduct of not using feeders. Maybe more than I realize.
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That's the way I hunt don't know many that do. If a deer gets buy me I will try to run him down. Ive killed a bunch that way.



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#6793789 - 06/14/17 09:30 PM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: rexmitchell]
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Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
Side note: what is your friend tying to keep out of that pen. That thing has a lot of t-posts.


As tall as it looks, I think he's trying to keep all the deer out too.

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#6793808 - 06/14/17 09:46 PM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Ranch Dog]
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Here's a good read on the subject.

The research does suggest that anything that brings fawns into the open as routinely as feeders are a coyote's best friend.

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#6793840 - 06/14/17 10:30 PM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Ranch Dog]
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Fawn deer are a coyotes favorite food. None get a pass from me anywhere.
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#6793904 - 06/15/17 02:16 AM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Texas Dan]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Here's a good read on the subject.

The research does suggest that anything that brings fawns into the open as routinely as feeders are a coyote's best friend.

Link


Good article and yes I will bust a yote any time I can. As far as ruining a hunt I don't think it will unless the deer are there at the same time. I have shot a yote early and left him laying then had deer show afterwards. I'm a believer in shoot stay quite and watch. up

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#6793965 - 06/15/17 07:18 AM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Ranch Dog]
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Rancher found a den on our place a few years ago and set up a camera on it and the mother coyote would score one fawn per day for about 10 days. Bad thing about deer and coyotes are the coyotes have their pups around the same time deer are dropping fawns.......easy pickings and alot of mouths to feed. And I shoot more coyotes than deer, thats how I try to balance.

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#6794193 - 06/15/17 10:42 AM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Ranch Dog]
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In a perfect world we have more deer than we want on our property. We have a huge coyote population and many bobcats as well, if it weren't for the number of fawns they kill every year I don't want to know how many deer we would have.

Its an interesting thought but how many of the fawns that fall victim to coyotes would be killed by some other means before maturity? If they all lived they would starve to death.
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#6794431 - 06/15/17 02:43 PM Re: Coyotes and Fawn Losses [Re: Ranch Dog]
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Watched in person a coyote take down a fawn in my front yard a few years ago. Was in NW Arkansas (I had 23 acres bordered by several hundred acres of pasture land). Backed out of the garage and saw a fawn run through the corner of my yard, followed by a big yote. Caught and killed the fawn before I really even comprehended what I saw. I stared in disbelief as the yote carried the fawn back into the treeline. Mama doe came running down the hill just as then and spent several frantic minutes trying to find junior.

Just for reference, this was the first part of July...at 1:30 in the afternoon.

No yote gets a pass from me.

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