texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
TraeMartin, Beatixre, MooseSteed, Trappernewt, casyoo
71987 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 110,788
bill oxner 91,416
SnakeWrangler 65,416
stxranchman 60,296
Gravytrain 46,950
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Stub 43,768
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics536,995
Posts9,719,276
Members86,987
Most Online25,604
Feb 12th, 2024
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
new personal best #6788824 06/09/17 10:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Chickenman Offline OP
Extremely Right Wing
OP Offline
Extremely Right Wing
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
50 lbs alternate curls 5 sets of 10. Feels good. I think I tore my liver though. trout



[Linked Image]
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6788856 06/09/17 11:31 PM
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 615
H
H2O Seeker Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
H
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 615
That's impressive. Nice work!


[Linked Image]
Grateful for every sunrise and sunset I get to witness. - Jason
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6789373 06/10/17 05:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,952
L
LFD2037 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
L
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,952
clap up


R.I.P. CPO Matt Mills-(DEVGRU)- You will NEVER be forgotten!
10-25-75 / 8-6-11 *K.I.A.*
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6795356 06/16/17 07:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,606
C
Chunky Monkey Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
C
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,606
Beast mode.

Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6820978 07/12/17 11:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 29,105
T
TXHOGSLAYER Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 29,105
eeks333




LETS GO BRANDON
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6821147 07/13/17 03:06 AM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 18,545
D
ducknbass Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
D
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 18,545
"How big a fella are ya"

Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6821194 07/13/17 03:53 AM
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 615
H
H2O Seeker Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
H
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 615
up that dog'll hunt!


[Linked Image]
Grateful for every sunrise and sunset I get to witness. - Jason
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6821536 07/13/17 03:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 5,067
T
titan2232 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
T
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 5,067
Not too shabby. I think I use something similar during my warm-up up



Re: new personal best [Re: titan2232] #6821753 07/13/17 08:11 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Chickenman Offline OP
Extremely Right Wing
OP Offline
Extremely Right Wing
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Moved back to 35s and 40s. Doing super sets of different curls. More painful. Hell I don't know. Its all a bunch of work with little results IMO. But, I choose not to stop.

Originally Posted By: titan2232
Not too shabby. I think I use something similar during my warm-up up


Impressive.


[Linked Image]
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6821813 07/13/17 08:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 5,067
T
titan2232 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
T
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 5,067
Keep on brother. Keep increasing that weight and keep getting stronger up



Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6824724 07/17/17 05:55 AM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 878
J
Jman Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
J
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 878
5 sets is strong. My guess is you'll be a tad sore


Jim Featherston
Mortgage Loan Officer - NMLS 2509901
Red Diamond Home Loans
165 S Kimball Ave, Suite 100
Southlake, TX 76092
PH 972-890-3114
Apply at: RDHLoans.com/Jim
Re: new personal best [Re: H2O Seeker] #6834658 07/26/17 02:35 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 43,768
S
Stub Online Happy
THF Celebrity
Online Happy
THF Celebrity
S
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 43,768
Originally Posted By: H2O Seeker
That's impressive. Nice work!
up

I start off with 25 lbs for 15 reps, then 35 lbs for 10 reps, then 25 lb again doing 12 reps and done grin
Keep in mind I am 61 years young, use to push much higher weights 20- 40 years ago but that was then and this is now. nuts

How I miss back then laugh



Last edited by Stub; 07/26/17 02:45 PM.

texas flag








Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6852357 08/11/17 01:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Chickenman Offline OP
Extremely Right Wing
OP Offline
Extremely Right Wing
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Backed off the 50s and started doing lighter supersets.

45 lbs - alternate curls
40 lbs - 10 reps cross curl
60 second +/- pause (not real disciplined in this area)
40 lbs - 10 reps hammer rotation curl (?)
4 sets

I can feel the pain/pump hours later vs working with the 50s plus whatever else I was curling.

My biceps grown sucks a lot. Not sure why. I work arms 3-4 days a week. Usually heavy. I am certainly stronger but still not seeing results. Its a real kick in the pants.


[Linked Image]
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6852881 08/11/17 03:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,576
S
Sneaky Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
S
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,576
If you want results, knock off the super sets and push some weight. Stay in the 4-6 rep range to failure. Science has proven this effective.

Re: new personal best [Re: Sneaky] #6852915 08/11/17 04:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,263
A
A.B. Offline
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Offline
Obi-Wan Kenobi
A
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,263
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
If you want results, knock off the super sets and push some weight. Stay in the 4-6 rep range to failure. Science has proven this effective.



I assume a super set is what we called speed weights. These were used to build stamina. For strength and mass, there is nothing better than heavy weight and doing 3 sets of 3 to 5 reps. You are looking for complete exhaustion or failure at end of last set. If you dont get this, you need to add more weight. Make sure your form stays solid, dont want to hurt yourself.

I dont know what science says, but the above proved true for a quarter of a century in the weight room.


Talent is a gift, character is a decision.
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6853064 08/11/17 06:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,576
S
Sneaky Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
S
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,576
Same idea, AB. Gotta push that weight.

Re: new personal best [Re: Sneaky] #6853673 08/12/17 12:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,263
A
A.B. Offline
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Offline
Obi-Wan Kenobi
A
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,263
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Same idea, AB. Gotta push that weight.


Yeah, I was agreeing with you. When I said the above is the truth, I meant yours, not my above. Kinda screwed that all up. Im an Aggie...... grin


Talent is a gift, character is a decision.
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6853751 08/12/17 02:06 PM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,576
S
Sneaky Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
S
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,576
Gotcha.

Re: new personal best [Re: Sneaky] #6854286 08/13/17 01:20 AM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Chickenman Offline OP
Extremely Right Wing
OP Offline
Extremely Right Wing
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
If you want results, knock off the super sets and push some weight. Stay in the 4-6 rep range to failure. Science has proven this effective.


I lift pretty heavy but never get to failure. I get close.

Super sets are easier on my elbow. I'd like to move more weight but benching alone has its limits. My current equipment limits me too.

I'll work with benching 235 tomorrow. 3-4 sets of 10. Thats all I got in the tank. Actually, since I have not done horizontal bench in a while, I may not have 4 sets in me.

Starting to do more compound lifts that require legs. Got a bum knee I've been easing into it and I hate it.


[Linked Image]
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6854357 08/13/17 02:44 AM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,576
S
Sneaky Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
S
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,576
I can sure understand that. I have some similar limitations. Doing what you can is far better than sitting on the couch.

Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6854385 08/13/17 03:09 AM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Chickenman Offline OP
Extremely Right Wing
OP Offline
Extremely Right Wing
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Side note, I did 4 sets of 45lb bent flies the other other day and tore my kidney in half I think. Not doing 45lb flies anymore. Going to keep it at 40 unless I get an organ transplant soon.


[Linked Image]
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6858767 08/16/17 08:52 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 43,768
S
Stub Online Happy
THF Celebrity
Online Happy
THF Celebrity
S
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 43,768
Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
If you want results, knock off the super sets and push some weight. Stay in the 4-6 rep range to failure. Science has proven this effective.


I lift pretty heavy but never get to failure. I get close.

Super sets are easier on my elbow. I'd like to move more weight but benching alone has its limits. My current equipment limits me too.

I'll work with benching 235 tomorrow. 3-4 sets of 10. Thats all I got in the tank. Actually, since I have not done horizontal bench in a while, I may not have 4 sets in me.

Starting to do more compound lifts that require legs. Got a bum knee I've been easing into it and I hate it.


Eat lots of Chicken laugh I mean protein up


texas flag








Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6859285 08/17/17 04:47 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,841
D
DocHorton Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
D
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,841
If you're doing arms 3-4 days a week that is too many if you are working them hard...every 4 days is enough. I do a 4 day split...Chest/Shoulders, Legs/Abs, Back/Biceps, Rest day, repeat. Have made some really good progress in the last 10 months.

5 sets of 10 is a lot....try some different movements with the arms too like incline bench curls, preacher curls, hammer curls, etc. I try to do 12-15 sets of 6-10 for each body part, and it is usually to failure.

Your body will recruit more muscle fibers the closer you get to failure and cause more damage to the fibers which is what induces your muscles to grow.

Keep up the good work!

Re: new personal best [Re: DocHorton] #6862224 08/20/17 02:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Chickenman Offline OP
Extremely Right Wing
OP Offline
Extremely Right Wing
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Originally Posted By: DocHorton
5 sets of 10 is a lot....try some different movements with the arms too like incline bench curls, preacher curls, hammer curls, etc. I try to do 12-15 sets of 6-10 for each body part, and it is usually to failure.


For you Doc and other weight lifting nerds grin

How far off am I? Would this be considered a low, medium, or hard arm workout?

Todays:
alt curls - 4 sets of 10 - 50lbs - doable but painful
cross curls - 4 sets of 10 - 45lbs - may move to 50lbs next
inclined hammer - 4 sets of 8 - 45lbs - found failure at 8 reps
chin ups - 5+5+5+7 - this is hard for me (230lbs)
dips - 5+5+5 - haven't done dips since.... ever
triceps bar overhead extension - 4 sets of 20 - 70lbs - not real heavy but 90lbs hurts my neck pretty bad
bent flies - 4 sets of 40lbs - chest related vs arm I know but I like it - 45lbs had me thinking I tore something a few weeks ago
crunches throughout the workout to keep the heart rate up

Thats 20 sets + the chin ups, drips, and crunches


[Linked Image]
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6864618 08/22/17 06:14 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,841
D
DocHorton Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
D
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,841
For me that would be a hard workout, but by the 3rd set I am usually struggling to get those last 2 reps and I am completely done. If I did a fourth set I normally can only do another 6-8. Once I can do 3 sets of 10 for two consecutive workouts with good form I up the weight another 5 pounds.

If I were you I would up the weight by 5-10 lbs and do 3 sets of 10 of Alt curls, cross curls, inclined hammer, triceps bar, and bent flys. That's 15 sets which is plenty plus your abs. You could throw in one more tricep exercise. I don't hit tris too hard on arm day because they also get worked pretty good on chest and shoulder days.

Also, I do dips on Chest day and I don't do pull-ups because they hurt my shoulders. You definitely don't need to do that workout 4 days a week, IMO, especially if you are pretty sore.

I'm no expert, but for my body, I get the best workouts when I do about 15 solid sets with good form and nice steady movements and really focus on contracting the muscle I am working rather than just moving weights around. One of the best pieces of advice I read about lifting is that you should make light weights feel heavy.

Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6865353 08/22/17 09:29 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,395
H
Huntmaster Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
H
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,395
10 sets of 10 reps per bodypart. 6 days a week, 2 parts, 2 hours a day. Nothing else will work.

Re: new personal best [Re: Huntmaster] #6865653 08/23/17 02:18 AM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,576
S
Sneaky Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
S
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,576
Originally Posted By: Huntmaster
10 sets of 10 reps per bodypart. 6 days a week, 2 parts, 2 hours a day. Nothing else will work.


If you're on steroids.

Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6866136 08/23/17 03:46 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,395
H
Huntmaster Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
H
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,395
Not really, you just have to have "it"--some do and some don't.

Re: new personal best [Re: Huntmaster] #6866545 08/23/17 10:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,263
A
A.B. Offline
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Offline
Obi-Wan Kenobi
A
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,263
Originally Posted By: Huntmaster
10 sets of 10 reps per bodypart. 6 days a week, 2 parts, 2 hours a day. Nothing else will work.


Not near enough recovery for 99.9% of population.


Talent is a gift, character is a decision.
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6866692 08/24/17 12:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,154
K
KWood_TSU Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
K
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,154
Also, most people, and I prefer it, do chest and triceps together in one day, and bicep and back on another day.

When I go hard here's my week.
Monday and Thursday quad based legs-abs on Monday. Thursday was hamstring and glutes based legs and abs.
Tuesday/Friday. Back and biceps
Wednesday/Saturday. Chest and triceps

This allows for rest and rotation.
For gaining strength, do 4x4-6. And those 4 reps need to be failure reps.


Amat Victoria Curam - Victory Loves Preparation
Re: new personal best [Re: KWood_TSU] #6866727 08/24/17 01:06 AM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Chickenman Offline OP
Extremely Right Wing
OP Offline
Extremely Right Wing
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,233
Originally Posted By: KWood_TSU
For gaining strength, do 4x4-6. And those 4 reps need to be failure reps.


Question: How can you get to failure without breaking form or lifting incorrectly?

I struggle with this balance. That forced failure rep for me means failed form and usually the rep before.


[Linked Image]
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6866830 08/24/17 02:25 AM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,263
A
A.B. Offline
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Offline
Obi-Wan Kenobi
A
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,263
Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: KWood_TSU
For gaining strength, do 4x4-6. And those 4 reps need to be failure reps.


Question: How can you get to failure without breaking form or lifting incorrectly?

I struggle with this balance. That forced failure rep for me means failed form and usually the rep before.



Failure is a tricky question, when lifting by yourself. When I was young, failure meant dumping the weights. Now that I am older, I know when my form breaks and I end it there or go one more possibly. Safety is paramount. At my age (49), I consider breaking form the end.

My 18 year old son, always wants to beat me by as much as possible. He will go till I yank the weights. Older you get, the more caution you must exercise.

At damn near a half century, I can still hold my own, but the days of bending the bar on bench, are long since over.

Do what you are comfortable with and do one more! cheers


Talent is a gift, character is a decision.
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6866925 08/24/17 05:03 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,154
K
KWood_TSU Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
K
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,154
With squat it's fairly easy, you use a safety and when you can't get that last rep, you can drop to the safety. But usually you know if you can do another or not. If it's dumbbell press, you push up until you can't, still should have good form on that. That's why preacher curls are popular, can't cheat. Or curl with your back on the wall. Incline curl and prone incline curl are good ways to keep form and use heavy weight too.
Bench press is the only one I don't recommend to failure, unless you have a spotter. As everyone has said, form, then weight. Arnold says it multiple times in his book as well. And his book also has his old workout routine in it.


Amat Victoria Curam - Victory Loves Preparation
Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6889569 09/17/17 04:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 5,067
T
titan2232 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
T
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 5,067
For bench strength gains I'd go:

10 totals sets

8 sets of 3 reps with heaviest you can handle (should recover to complete the 8 sets with same weight)

1 set 2 reps

1 set max


Always have a spotter or bench with no clamps


2cents



Re: new personal best [Re: Chickenman] #6903614 09/29/17 09:18 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 174
T
Trickster Offline
Woodsman
Offline
Woodsman
T
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 174
That's heavy man! scared

Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2024 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3