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#6786580 - 06/07/17 03:37 PM Which Scope for 3Gun
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Just built a 3 Gun rifle and I bought the Gen II 1-6x Viper PST, but its on back order for 37 days.

I've read great things about the Viper PST Gen II 1-6x, basically a 90% Razor Gen II. That is a lot of scope for the money.

Normally I'm not a fan of BDC reticles, but I feel like 3Gun with how fast you'll be shooting at different ranges if there was a time to use a BDC this would be it.

I also looked at the 1-8x Strike Eagle, but of course the glass is going to be crap compared to the GenII Viper.

Also maybe looking at the Burris XTR II 1-5, they have a BDC but it is $100 more than the Gen II Viper.

Should I just stick with the GenII Viper or cancel my order and get a different scope? This rifle will be used strictly for 3Gun.
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#6786602 - 06/07/17 04:07 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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Kyle, having never competed in Three Gun, I wonder how well my SS 1-6 would do? It sure does good work on my range, and hunting. The glass is very nice, as you know.
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#6786606 - 06/07/17 04:15 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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Yes, that was another of my considerations was the SWFA 1-6, but the mil scale reticle is about the same as the VMR-2 reticle with the mil hash marks on it. Really wish Vortex had put the JM1 reticle the Razor Gen II has for 3 gun. Would have been great for my predicament LOL.
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#6786641 - 06/07/17 04:42 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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Originally Posted By: KRoyal
Yes, that was another of my considerations was the SWFA 1-6, but the mil scale reticle is about the same as the VMR-2 reticle with the mil hash marks on it. Really wish Vortex had put the JM1 reticle the Razor Gen II has for 3 gun. Would have been great for my predicament LOL.


Since I've been waiting for my Gen 2 PSTs since January, I want you to suffer with me and wait for yours. Hell, I actually might've paid my deposits in December. Been so long I can't remember.
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#6786645 - 06/07/17 04:47 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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You're on the right track. Anything in the 1-4, 1-6 or 1-8 power will work well. I used to use the Burris XTR 1-4 with the 5.56 BDC style reticle. The reticle didn't line up to the bullet I was shooting, but I still used it for my holds. It worked very well, once I knew my holds. Hits out to 600 and 800 yards were very doable.
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#6786651 - 06/07/17 04:54 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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Kyle, I've got a Viper with the BDC reticle and other than checking distances for each hash mark I have never used them. I may be wrong here but I can't imagine it would offer an advantage over MILS or MOA. P_102
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#6786657 - 06/07/17 05:04 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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Thanks guys, Jeremy hopefully mine is not that far out. Chad are you saying you just figured out what hash mark your hold was for and remembered it on a regular reticle or was the Burris a BDC? By the way sucka text me back. Chris the BDC would give a little advantage in the run and gun type shooting you do in 3 gun you don't want to have to really think about which hash mark it is when trying to shoot fast. But yea I don't really see an advantage in regular shooting.
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#6786661 - 06/07/17 05:09 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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Yes, it was the 5.56 BDC style reticle, like pictured in the link below. The BDC reticle was set up for a 62 grain bullet going faster than the 68 grain BTHP bullet I was shooting. I shot it at all distances to get my holds down on the reticle. 200 and 300 were real close, but 400 and out needed less hold, so I just knew where to hold on the vertical line. I'll show you how to do it, if you get a BDC type reticle. It's easy to learn and fast to shoot with.

http://www.burrisoptics.com/reticles/xtr-ii-ballistic-5.56-gen-3
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#6786778 - 06/07/17 07:25 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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You're going to want something with some drop reference built in. I've been very happy with my MTAC 1-4, although I do sometimes wish I had some more magnification. Look at other scopes and see what suits your eye and budget the best, but DEFINITELY get something with elevation references in the reticle.
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#6786854 - 06/07/17 08:36 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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I didn't think the gen 2 1-6 came in a BDC reticle. I thought moa or mil only. Cabelas has them in stock and I received mine in moa this Monday.

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#6786863 - 06/07/17 08:42 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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Yea they don't come in BDC, I bought mine in mil. Think I'm going to cancel the order and find one with BDC.
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#6786997 - 06/07/17 10:24 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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I use a red dot but most guys I know that use a scope use either the Bushnell 1-6.5x, the 1-6x razor with the JM reticle, the primary arms 1-8x platinum, or the Burris XTR II. Out of all of those I like the razor and the XTR the best.

One guy I know just got a Swarovski Z8i 1-8x which is pretty amazing but also probably one of the most expensive pieces of glass I've ever looked through.

This videos a little old but still a good comparison in my opinion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHzvI6zu7Mo


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#6787002 - 06/07/17 10:37 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: Gwood88]
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Originally Posted By: Gwood88
I use a red dot but most guys I know that use a scope use either the Bushnell 1-6.5x, the 1-6x razor with the JM reticle, the primary arms 1-8x platinum, or the Burris XTR II. Out of all of those I like the razor and the XTR the best.

One guy I know just got a Swarovski Z8i 1-8x which is pretty amazing but also probably one of the most expensive pieces of glass I've ever looked through.

This videos a little old but still a good comparison in my opinion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHzvI6zu7Mo


Most of all those are a little out of my price range. I'd love to have a razor with the JM1 reticle.

Anyone have any experience with the strike eagle 1-8? It has the reticle I want but not sure on the glass.
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#6787009 - 06/07/17 10:48 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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By the way I've seen that video before which is what turned me on to the strike eagle to begin with.
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#6787027 - 06/07/17 11:21 PM Re: Which Scope for 3Gun [Re: KRoyal]
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I put the 1-6x strike eagle on my wife's SBR. It's the from the same factory as the Primary Arms scopes. The glass is, like the video says, good enough. It'll do. It's no PST but it's pretty clear. For a precision rifle I would want something different but for 3 gun it will be fine. It's pretty good for the money. I think the "1x" is better than some other scopes I've tried.
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