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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
[Re: J.G.]
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06/14/17 05:58 PM
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8pointdrop
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Still not convincing me to be scared of the big bad pig. Some rare cases maybe they are dangerous, still running down and kicking the cr@p out of every piglet I can. Hopefully while momma watches, but if I had to bet she'll be in the next county not worrying about ol slow pork getting punted by a redneck.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/14/17 05:58 PM
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I've had a bird dog who couldn't resist grabbing piglets. If a bird dog will do it, so will a coyote.
I was always afraid the pig's mama was going to get to her before I could. She had been bitten by javelina at least once, I suspect twice, and couldn't stand pigs. Javalinas are a little different. A little.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/14/17 06:00 PM
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Javis are a lot different I think. Call in a few from the ground using distress calls. They show up bristled up and wanting a fight. I won't be jumping on any baby javis.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/14/17 06:03 PM
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I have been living with and killing hogs for over 30 years. I'm not confused about squat. You're confused again.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/14/17 06:14 PM
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"Cite one example..."
Several examples are cited.
"No proof, bunch of scaredy cats, you're dumb I'm smart."
What a tool.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/17/17 01:56 PM
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I saw coyotes snatch a piglet once while bowhunting near Hillsboro. Two sows and piglets were headed towards my feeder when three coyotes came flying out of a creek bed. The coyotes snatched one of the smaller piglets and then the fight was one. Momma sow bum rushed the coyotes and rolled one of them. The coyote she hit got up limping and running off. The whole scene lasted a few seconds, but it was an awesome sight to see. The coyotes got the piglet, but one them paid a big price. I failed to mention the volume of the hogs squeals and snorts was off the charts loud. I was ticked off at first because my hunt was ruined, but then I realized you don't see things like this very often.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/17/17 03:15 PM
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[b][/b] Edit: note ta self... stop making videos in rain of thunderstorms... got old android, its circuts malfunction.... read post by bigjoe ... next thing new , it showed post from me ... so not ta waist post... theirs evidence of yotes taking smaller hogs... keep getting pop-ups a secure connection can't be found Dan Gov... i ts that alien thing ...
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/17/17 04:32 PM
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"Cite one example..."
Several examples are cited.
"No proof, bunch of scaredy cats, you're dumb I'm smart."
What a tool.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/17/17 05:32 PM
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I concede that, by scouring sites like one called "Outdoor Oddities" you found 2 or 3 apparent examples of hogs attacking some folks. (Assuming you believe it happened that way. Frankly, I don't. But that's what they said.)
Here's the larger point: if you are scared of hogs and view them as vicious when unprovoked/unwounded - it can only be because you have little to no experience with them. I have kicked plenty of pigs just for fun (after Momma was dead/ran off) and will do so till I die if the mood strikes.
Say what you will, bash, whatever.
That's a straight up "city-boy" mentality - closer to what a PETA snowflake would believe than anyone with even a modicum of real experience living with hogs. So is asking if coyotes will eat pigs. I started out very low key, but having been "called out" I will say this: I can't believe that question would even be asked with a straight face by someone on a hunting forum.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/17/17 05:41 PM
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(Assuming you believe it happened that way. Frankly, I don't. But that's what they said.)
That's because, regardless of the issue, unless it fits your beliefs; it can't be true.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/17/17 05:44 PM
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(Assuming you believe it happened that way. Frankly, I don't. But that's what they said.)
That's because, regardless of the issue, unless it fits your beliefs; it can't be true. At least my belief here is based on 53 years growing up around/hunting/trapping/killing hogs in east TX. Instead of some TV/website stoked "fear" stories to get the city boys to think they have really done something when they kill a hog. Sells a lot of ARs though.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/17/17 05:59 PM
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I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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Nobody is claiming every wild pig is a blood thirsty monster. You are claiming that wild pigs do not attack unprovoked. It can be easily proved that, be it rare, wild pigs will attack unprovoked.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/17/17 06:16 PM
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To go with what you're saying, I've seen coyotes do some serious running, in some serious heat. Even saw one hunting for rodents in a pasture at 3 p.m. in normal August weather. Had someone bet me I'd see that, I would have lost that bet. Back when I was a young fellow in Odessa we lived in the country, got my first horse when I was 4yo. One day the recorded temp was 103 degrees and while out checking fence I saw a coyote chasing a rabbit and they were both walking.. .
The Greatest Enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.--Stephen Hawking
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/17/17 06:21 PM
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Hogs are not vicious, bloodthirsty, or even mean. That's just a TV/city boy myth. Sure - you trap them, wound them, corner them (particularly with a catch dog hanging off their snout) and they will defend themselves. So will a mouse or a mockingbird.
Have approached dozens of sounders. As said above, they all run. Mommas don't wait on the pigs - they run just like the rest of them. Coyotes eat the chit out of every pig they can catch.
It's a silly question. Check the documented history of Gainesville TX.
The Greatest Enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.--Stephen Hawking
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/17/17 06:28 PM
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blackcoal
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Don't agree that hogs aren't vicious.
They're not always vicious and/or aggressive, but they sure as hell can be. Even without being cornered.
Cite one example of a hog attacking and/or injuring someone unprovoked. Why ? It is apparent you haven't checked the matter enough or you would know you are incorrect.
The Greatest Enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.--Stephen Hawking
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Re: Have you seen evidence of coyotes killing and eating pigs?
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06/18/17 04:40 AM
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I hunt all the time at night, have seen many times a yote is trying to get a pig Leyte. Sows and boars protect the piglettes. Usually the piglettes get close to mom when one is hanging around
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