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#6778521 - 05/30/17 09:32 AM What did this to this cedar tree?
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Registered: 01/25/14
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Loc: Austin, TX & Val Verde County,...
This past weekend when we were out at our place and gathering up game cams, I noticed this tree that had been broken. It wasn't broken on Saturday, but was when I went back out to that particular feeder late Sunday morning. Not only is the tree broken, but there are all kinds of what look like claw marks, some hair clinging to branches, and lots of small broken limbs on the ground underneath and around the tree. The break occurred at eye level for me, and I'm 5'2" so about 5 feet off the ground. The marks, though, go all the way down to the ground.

Our land is in Val Verde County, just north of Comstock off of 1024.

The entire tree, standing in between it and the feeder:



Sorry it's sideways, but a close up of the main break:
















Hair clinging to the tree:





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Edited by chicklitter (05/30/17 09:33 AM)

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#6778543 - 05/30/17 09:53 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: chicklitter]
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Do you have a bull on the place? Our neighbor's Angus bull took one apart that was twice that size. You'd have thought he used a dozer on it.

However, the break appears to have been initiated by weight from above. Bear, maybe? Big fat bear ran up the tree and it gave out?
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#6778544 - 05/30/17 09:54 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: chicklitter]
Wytex Offline
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Loc: Wyoming
Looks like an elk rub to me, any in your area? They will leave either dark colored hairs or some buffy colored ones.
What other big game is around there? Maybe an exotic rub.

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#6778545 - 05/30/17 09:55 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: chicklitter]
chicklitter Offline
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No bulls. And we're fenced, so we haven't seen any wild hogs, either (although I think the damage would be a little high up for a wild hog).

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#6778555 - 05/30/17 09:58 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: Wytex]
chicklitter Offline
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Originally Posted By: Wytex
Looks like an elk rub to me, any in your area? They will leave either dark colored hairs or some buffy colored ones.
What other big game is around there? Maybe an exotic rub.


Some neighbors have caught axis and aoudad on their game cams, and there are a couple of herds of wild goats that will make the rounds. That being said, we've never seen any of the above on our game cams. We're also low fenced, which I know doesn't matter for a lot of things, but does for some.

I think there might be some elk in the general vicinity (like, within 50 miles or so), but I have yet to see or hear about any in our particular area.

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#6778563 - 05/30/17 10:04 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
chicklitter Offline
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Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Do you have a bull on the place? Our neighbor's Angus bull took one apart that was twice that size. You'd have thought he used a dozer on it.

However, the break appears to have been initiated by weight from above. Bear, maybe? Big fat bear ran up the tree and it gave out?


That's what I was thinking about the break, too, that it was caused by weight on it. I suspect bear (we know there's at least one in the area because several neighbors have caught it on game cams), but have yet to catch it on the game cam. When we were out there about a month ago I noticed a lot of rocks that had been overturned, enough that I commented on it to my husband because it looked like something had just picked them up and moved them. And for the past couple of months I've been noticing a lot of sotol dug up, but figured that could have been many different animals.

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#6778568 - 05/30/17 10:09 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: chicklitter]
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scratch back in me muyloco caveman days, came apone sign like that quite often... confused2 check area for bigfoot prints... bang no not taz sasquatch scratch that theary been beat ta death...








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#6778569 - 05/30/17 10:09 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: chicklitter]
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I've seen goats climb trees? confused2
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#6778589 - 05/30/17 10:27 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: chicklitter]
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Maybe the wind ???

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#6778617 - 05/30/17 11:12 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: chicklitter]
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Looks like a big cat was using it for a scratching post and it broke due to his weight.

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#6778625 - 05/30/17 11:20 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: chicklitter]
don k Offline
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Lightning then after it was down animals rubbed on it.
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#6778628 - 05/30/17 11:22 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: chicklitter]
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Registered: 05/11/11
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Loc: Texas
Whatever it was I would be wearing a side arm going out to the area

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#6778645 - 05/30/17 11:35 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: chicklitter]
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#6778650 - 05/30/17 11:41 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: Ntgrty]
chicklitter Offline
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Registered: 01/25/14
Posts: 66
Loc: Austin, TX & Val Verde County,...
Originally Posted By: Ntgrty
Whatever it was I would be wearing a side arm going out to the area


roflmao

We're always armed when we're out and about on the ranch. Between snakes and the possibility of running into other things (mountain lions, illegals), our guns are like American Express--we don't leave home without them.

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#6778661 - 05/30/17 11:49 AM Re: What did this to this cedar tree? [Re: chicklitter]
Wytex Offline
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Loc: Wyoming
Gather some of the hairs and show them to your biologist in the area. Bears will mark trees with scratches up here and haven't seen them break them off like that. The hair will be the key.
Bears will definitely turn over rocks and logs looking for food. They usually leave distinct claw marks on trees.
The marks look like antler rubbing but hard to say, no tracks on the ground?

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