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#6777843 - 05/29/17 02:15 PM Hog doggers strike again
webb1974 Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 06/26/10
Posts: 492
I always said I wouldn't lump everyone in one group but as far as I'm concerned there are no good once left. I thought I was done with this problem.
History behind this is I had to refund a group of hunters because of hog doggers and the guy actually told me he would go anywhere his dogs did and didn't care that I had to refund money his dogs were worth more than that. Anyways that old news no problem for a couple years.
Fast forward until this morning when I was informed by a group that they can legally enter my property as long as they try to contact me first and that if I don't answer they can enter my property and if I do answer I can't deny them access.
Bad part is I was always one to allow it outside of deer season but I'm done with all of them.

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#6777848 - 05/29/17 02:23 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
cameron00 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 8678
Loc: Texas
If you had to refund money based on the dogs, you have demonstrable damages. Sue them.

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#6777858 - 05/29/17 02:34 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
cameron00 Offline
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Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 8678
Loc: Texas
And honestly. Until someone enforces the law on them, they'll keep doing it. You need to be ready to get the Sherriff's office out next time. Don't shoot the dogs, don't argue with them, corral the dogs and hold them until LE gets there. "I had to follow my dog" is absolutely not a free pass to trespass, but you have to take the next step, and don't be careless in doing so.

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#6777862 - 05/29/17 02:36 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
SnakeWrangler Offline
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Registered: 01/22/11
Posts: 28228
Loc: Fairfield, TX
These days most people simply don't respect others properly.... They feel they have every right to trample all over your rights....sad!
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#6777880 - 05/29/17 03:03 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
Nogalus Prairie Offline
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Registered: 11/22/10
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Loc: Corsicana
I have had my fill of them. I hate to "lump" too - but "lumping" is justified with the vast majority of hog doggers.

They pretty much live by the saying that they'd rather ask forgiveness than permission. Sounds like yours won't even do that.
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#6777882 - 05/29/17 03:07 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: cameron00]
webb1974 Offline
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Registered: 06/26/10
Posts: 492
Yep. I didn't even argue with him because he new he was right. Unfortunately I found out after he had already done it but the call was just a courteous call and he was gonna go anyways. I will prosecute to the fullest if caught

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#6777901 - 05/29/17 03:33 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
rexmitchell Offline
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Registered: 02/11/13
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I'm going to ask knowing the answer but what part of the state is this?

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#6777909 - 05/29/17 03:48 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
webb1974 Offline
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Registered: 06/26/10
Posts: 492
Palo pinto county

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#6777934 - 05/29/17 04:17 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
bigjoe8565 Offline
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Registered: 06/30/08
Posts: 4627
Loc: Mesquite, Tx
Not sure I understand why he can enter your property (I'm assuming you own) without your permission. Help me understand how the guy can do this, and it not be considered trespassing.

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#6777953 - 05/29/17 04:32 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
webb1974 Offline
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Registered: 06/26/10
Posts: 492
He can't legally but "they" seem to think the law allows them to to retrieve their dogs. Some of the guys just don't care but some really think the law is on their side and they can enter the property. This has happened on property that I own and slso property that I lease the landowner of the property that I lease gave the guys my number and said to contact me. They were very respectful and apologetic and I helped them get their dogs. There's just way more of the bad guys.

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#6777962 - 05/29/17 04:40 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
flintknapper Offline
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Registered: 02/18/15
Posts: 1087
Loc: Deep East Texas
I've had experiences with that type unfortunately.

So I won't even start on Hog Doggers. NONE are welcome on my property anymore.

I know that ALL of them are not that way, but MOST of them (where I live) ARE!

Their mindset is absolutely crazy.

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6470814/1



Edited by flintknapper (05/29/17 11:34 PM)
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#6777995 - 05/29/17 05:21 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
Old Stony Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 07/21/16
Posts: 152
Loc: East of Dallas
I was sitting in a stand waiting for hogs one night, and had a hog dog come in under the feeder. No doubt what he was doing as he had a protective collar covering his neck. It was friendly and I got it by the collar. I saw some lights back in the woods, and hollered at the guys that I had their dog, but couldn't get them to come out. I finally let the dog go as I couldn't exactly blame it.

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#6778127 - 05/29/17 08:08 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
onlysmith&wesson Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 07/10/14
Posts: 413
Loc: Lewisville/ Foard County
Do hog doggers really think it is a defense to prosecution if they are getting their dogs? That's ridiculous. The trespass law is a pretty easy read.

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#6778136 - 05/29/17 08:19 PM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
spg Offline
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Registered: 08/11/13
Posts: 1287
Boy Boy, I had the same problem years back when I hunted in Mississippi.....done with those people and the state. Just no respect or ethics. Thank God for Texas.

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#6778663 - 05/30/17 11:51 AM Re: Hog doggers strike again [Re: webb1974]
TexOddball Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 10/05/16
Posts: 40
Loc: Aggieland
Is there some law, or legal precedent that I've missed? An unwelcome dog running loose is a dead dog. I'm puzzled by the notion that this simple practice is suddenly invalid.

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