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Is the 300BLK Subsonic a 200 yard Deer Killer? #6741126 04/20/17 07:36 PM
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Re: Is the 300BLK Subsonic a 200 yard Deer Killer? [Re: AP2020] #6741251 04/20/17 10:06 PM
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NO, from what I have seen it is not even a 75 yd. deer killer.

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Will it kill a deer? Yes

Should you expect good results? No

Is it irresponsible? Yes

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With good bullet placement, yes.

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No. But a guy i know says they are developing better ammo.

Re: Is the 300BLK Subsonic a 200 yard Deer Killer? [Re: AP2020] #6741440 04/21/17 01:14 AM
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Stupid!

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300blk subsonic is worthless for hunting. There are some high end bullet mfg that claim subsonic lethality with their $4/per bullet but I will just kill stuff with my regular cheap supersonic 6.5 bullets and not have to try and hit something with the mortar trajectory subs.

Re: Is the 300BLK Subsonic a 200 yard Deer Killer? [Re: glocker17] #6741673 04/21/17 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: glocker17
Will it kill a deer? Yes

Should you expect good results? No

Is it irresponsible? Yes


This.

.300BO subs are good ONLY for shooting hogs up close. IMO.

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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
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Will it kill a deer? Yes

Should you expect good results? No

Is it irresponsible? Yes


This.

.300BO subs are good ONLY for shooting hogs up close. IMO.


Or people if you are in close quarters combat.


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I have been thinking about getting a 300 BLK or swapping a bolt action rifle for one. How is the 300 BLK for a brush gun? I may just stick to a . 223.


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Re: Is the 300BLK Subsonic a 200 yard Deer Killer? [Re: AP2020] #6743733 04/23/17 05:11 PM
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.300BO supersonics are very decent. Good for close range shots on moderate sized deer, similar to a 7.62x39, IMO. But with improved bullet performance.

It's a good cartridge, within it's capabilities.

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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
.300BO supersonics are very decent. Good for close range shots on moderate sized deer, similar to a 7.62x39, IMO. But with improved bullet performance.



It's a good cartridge, within it's capabilities.



What's the ballistics?


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Re: Is the 300BLK Subsonic a 200 yard Deer Killer? [Re: AP2020] #6745387 04/25/17 03:06 PM
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Todd Huey on Youtube's LoneStar Boars has some great videos showing penetration and expansion of super vs subsonic 300blk. Check those out and report back.

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The 300 Black Out is a great Texas hunting cartridge, IMO. I have been using it almost exclusively for the last 4 or 5 years. I hunt with the 125 grain full power loads, 125 SST and 125 Ballistic Tip. They provide perfect mushroom shaped expansion, and good penetration. I get pass throughs on all deer. Big pigs will catch the bullet. I've had customers send me pictures of recovered bullets that have worked perfectly.

As far as subsonics, most use them less than 100 yards, due to drop. With a 100 yard zero on a sub, you will be about 3.5" high at 50, 12"-15" low at 150 yards, and about 3 feet low at 200. Most shooters/hunters can not account for the exact drop during field conditions with a round that drops this much. A 200 yard subsonic drop is about equal to a 500 yard shot with a common 270 Win and 130 grain bullet. We have plinked with subs out to 500 and 600 yards, but that's at the range with multiple rounds and adjustments. The subs simply aren't consistent enough to make those kinds of shots reliably in a 300 blk out.


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Nice video but, IMO you haven't proved anything until you have consistently DRT'd deer with it at 200 yards.

And knowing all the weapons you have to hunt deer with my question is why?


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I hunt with the 125 grain full power loads, 125 SST and 125 Ballistic Tip. They provide perfect mushroom shaped expansion, and good penetration. I get pass throughs on all deer. Big pigs will catch the bullet. I've had customers send me pictures of recovered bullets that have worked perfectly.

Good to know. I have been using the 110gn Nosler Varmageddons with great results on deer and feral dogs. Also have a box of the Sierra 135gn Varminter Hp's (Sierra Part # 2124) when I have some time to fiddle, but they are on the back burner with how well the Nosler 110's shoot. Running Lil Gun to light the fires. [/u]


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.300 blackout is a lousy round PERIOD

For close quarter combat in Afghanistan, Im sure its GREAT! But for hunting, its a lousy round, when compared to other cartridges. Doesn't hold a candle to a .243, much less a .270 or .308

.300 blackout - 115 gr UMC 2,295 ft/s (700 m/s) 1,344 ft·lbf (1,822 J)

.308 - 125 gr (8 g) Spitzer 3,100 ft/s (940 m/s) 2,668 ft·lbf (3,617 J)

308 has twice the energy and almost 1,000 more fps with a heavier bullet. My point being, why even screw with it when you can get a .308?

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The trend now seems to be " what's the lowest power round I can kill a deer with"


Complete 180 from 30 years ago


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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
The trend now seems to be " what's the lowest power round I can kill a deer with"


Complete 180 from 30 years ago


EXACTLY! What is the deal? When I was a kid it was either man up to the .243 or 30-06 or don't hunt. Grow some shoulders....

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Originally Posted By: budward
.300 blackout is a lousy round PERIOD

For close quarter combat in Afghanistan, Im sure its GREAT! But for hunting, its a lousy round, when compared to other cartridges. Doesn't hold a candle to a .243, much less a .270 or .308

.300 blackout - 115 gr UMC 2,295 ft/s (700 m/s) 1,344 ft·lbf (1,822 J)

.308 - 125 gr (8 g) Spitzer 3,100 ft/s (940 m/s) 2,668 ft·lbf (3,617 J)

308 has twice the energy and almost 1,000 more fps with a heavier bullet. My point being, why even screw with it when you can get a .308?


But all the rounds you speak of will not fit in an AR-15. And if a round is great for killing 2 legged critters, why wouldn't it work for the 4 legged one's? I have been hunting with a Rem 700 in 300 blk out for about 3 or 4 years now. I'm pushing a 125 grain bullet at 2300+ in a suppressed 16" barrel. Low recoil, great bullet performance, easy to handle, kills crap great. It has killed as effective as any 270 or other standard cartridge I've shot. Plus, the low recoil makes it VERY easy to shoot, and you don't get the flinch a lot of shooters get when shooting too big of a gun. You don't need a big magnum to kill a deer or pig for Texas hunting.


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Originally Posted By: budward
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The trend now seems to be " what's the lowest power round I can kill a deer with"


Complete 180 from 30 years ago


EXACTLY! What is the deal? When I was a kid it was either man up to the .243 or 30-06 or don't hunt. Grow some shoulders....



Not saying it was right, but in most of the camps I hunted in as a kid, a .243 was regarded as a ladies caliber.

I am a subscriber to the "use enough gun" philosophy


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