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#6741520 - 04/20/17 09:17 PM Someone asked why they should join the TPWF?
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Here's just one of the many reasons.

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#6741543 - 04/20/17 09:45 PM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Well done video.
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#6742768 - 04/22/17 08:22 AM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: Creekrunner]
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Nah. Pronghorn aren't "endangered" in Texas. Simply ridiculous to think that the state of Texas is going to "save" them. Or needs more of our money to do it.

And anyway, if you really wanted to "save" the pronghorn (or any species) you'd deregulate them and let private landowners control every aspect of their lives. Look no further than west Texas elk for a prime example. State had absolutely nothing to do with their re-introduction and propogation. And now we have elk over much of their native west Texas range.
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#6742779 - 04/22/17 08:36 AM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Merriam's elk were in West Texas. They're extinct.
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#6742886 - 04/22/17 10:50 AM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: Texas Dan]
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TPWD did reintroduce some elk to west Texas along with private landowner efforts

And the pronghorn antelope population in the trans-pecos is in trouble, that's no secret
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I think the deer hunting shows and "Bro' Country" are going to be the downfall of this once-great nation.

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#6743443 - 04/22/17 10:22 PM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: Creekrunner]
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Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Merriam's elk were in West Texas. They're extinct.


Rocky mountain elk are there now. Because private landowners want them. TPWD had NOTHING to do with it.
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#6743577 - 04/23/17 08:57 AM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: Texas Dan]
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I will never understand your acting like TPWD is "The Man" keeping you down therancher. All they really mandate is seasons and bag limits. And those are flexible as all getout with MLD programs.

HFs are fine, breeding is fine, any other management technique you like is fine - basically whatever you want to do.

TPWD basically has laws in place to make sure the poaching idiots don't decimate the resources. Beyond that, private landowners can do as they wish to protect/propagate the animals. Your "leave all up to the private landowners" mantra makes zero sense from any perspective. Just gives the idiot landowners (and there are plenty) free reign to decimate the resource to the detriment of everyone.

I get a GW wrote you a ticket one time you thought was stupid. Time to get over it.
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#6743603 - 04/23/17 09:29 AM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: txtrophy85]
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
TPWD did reintroduce some elk to west Texas along with private landowner efforts

And the pronghorn antelope population in the trans-pecos is in trouble, that's no secret


they tried to exterminate elk in their WMA's. End of the day elk are here because private landowners see value.

Antelope populations are stable and growing in the panhandle.

Maybe we should stop using panhandle antelope for introduction in TP and make a deal on some of similar latitude

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#6743641 - 04/23/17 10:02 AM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: therancher]
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Originally Posted By: therancher
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Merriam's elk were in West Texas. They're extinct.


Rocky mountain elk are there now. Because private landowners want them. TPWD had NOTHING to do with it.


How you think aoudad got there?
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
I think the deer hunting shows and "Bro' Country" are going to be the downfall of this once-great nation.

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#6743701 - 04/23/17 11:20 AM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: txtrophy85]
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: therancher
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Merriam's elk were in West Texas. They're extinct.


Rocky mountain elk are there now. Because private landowners want them. TPWD had NOTHING to do with it.


How you think aoudad got there?


Better question why are aoudad still there. Palo duro canyon is a very small isolated area of TX, in grand scheme. The hill country and STX is private introduction.

I wonder how long it will be before they are wiped out via Ariel campaign to make room for Bighorns in palo duro....

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#6743707 - 04/23/17 11:26 AM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: Texas Dan]
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scratch Is this in reference to texas Parks & Wildlife Foundation ?
bang bang bang as a person from Minnesota & resident of texas for 30+ years, as pappy once said: i got cheap posts , they worth bout 2cents...
As in the original post by texas Dan, that's just 1 of the many reasons...

As pappy once said: what good is a voice, if left unspoken .... flag
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#6743773 - 04/23/17 01:01 PM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: therancher
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Merriam's elk were in West Texas. They're extinct.


Rocky mountain elk are there now. Because private landowners want them. TPWD had NOTHING to do with it.


How you think aoudad got there?


Better question why are aoudad still there. Palo duro canyon is a very small isolated area of TX, in grand scheme. The hill country and STX is private introduction.

I wonder how long it will be before they are wiped out via Ariel campaign to make room for Bighorns in palo duro....


The state introduced them to the transpecos


With the money that aoudad are bringing now the landowners like having them around.

The bighorn sheep re-introduction is one of the biggest wastes of money imo.
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
I think the deer hunting shows and "Bro' Country" are going to be the downfall of this once-great nation.

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#6743783 - 04/23/17 01:16 PM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: Texas Dan]
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All depends on one's priorities. Desert BH were native, and they are an iconic species. But only 8-10 tags per year and almost no opportunities for the average man to hunt unless he wins the lottery.

Aoudad are non-native, but are huntable and provide more opportunities for more people.

I side with the native species just about every time. I put thousands of $$$ into sheep draws for 13 years (still do) never expecting to ever hunt them. But my thinking was it was largely going to a good cause and maybe my grandkids could one day.....

LO desert sheep tags go for about 85K. That's 17-20 aoudad hunts.
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#6743816 - 04/23/17 01:43 PM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: Texas Dan]
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How many bighorn sheep tags are issued a year in Texas? 1 or 2?
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
I think the deer hunting shows and "Bro' Country" are going to be the downfall of this once-great nation.

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#6743845 - 04/23/17 02:14 PM Re: Someone asked why they should join the TPWF? [Re: txtrophy85]
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
How many bighorn sheep tags are issued a year in Texas? 1 or 2?



No something like 8-12 a year...only 2-3 "state" tags the rest are private.

I am going to hunt Elephant Mountain next week for Desert Bighorn, I feel very fortunate for this opportunity--and will continue to donate to the re introduction of native game.

Ed


Edited by 505ed (04/23/17 02:17 PM)

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