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#6736320 - 04/16/17 09:22 AM R700 actions as donors
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Got a buddy planning a build off of a 700 s/a. He has to buy the gun ( Cabelas gift cards) is there a huge difference in quality between the adl, bdl, etc? Or just buy the cheapest one?

Note: He doesn't want another brand


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#6736333 - 04/16/17 09:31 AM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Brother in-law]
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I haven't noticed any difference in models. I normally try pawn shops first, then Academy for a plain Jane.
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#6736363 - 04/16/17 10:06 AM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Brother in-law]
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I saw some Remington action for under $400 ONLINE



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#6736394 - 04/16/17 10:54 AM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Brother in-law]
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ADL as a donor action, and a Timney trigger.

BDL and CDL are more money, but same action and bolt. BDL and CDL are charging for bottom metal type, and stock type.
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#6736414 - 04/16/17 11:24 AM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Brother in-law]
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I have a new MOA trigger, I can let go for a song and some $$$, cheap
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#6736415 - 04/16/17 11:24 AM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
I have a new MOA trigger, I can let go for a song and some $$$, cheap


not MOA, the Pro Mark?? its a factory Remington trigger
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#6736449 - 04/16/17 12:20 PM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Brother in-law]
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Buy an ADL from Academy (or where ever is cheapest/on-sale) in .308 Win cal. Have gunsmith or hobbyist remove barrel without scratching it. Sell everything except action on eBay as "New". I got my last Rem SA virtually for free doing this. The .308 Win barrel is the most sought after & will bring the most money on eBay.
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#6736480 - 04/16/17 12:53 PM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Brother in-law]
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No difference in quality I have ever seen, just configuration. If I plan to run a ptg I look for used cheap adl or bdl for a steal and sell floor plate assembly on eBay for 80-100.
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#6736487 - 04/16/17 01:03 PM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Brother in-law]
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There is definitely a difference in quality between a regular black anodized action from a store-bought rifle, and the stainless bare actions that are made for building on. The stainless bare actions and bolts are just made better. I have a couple of both to compare.
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#6736506 - 04/16/17 01:48 PM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Brother in-law]
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There is no practical difference in the 700 actions other than the finish.

If your friend is building a rifle from scratch the 700 is a good place to start. Also you might want to remind him that he won't save much money using a donor action though. The cost difference between starting with a stock factory action and a custom action isn't that much after you add in the cost to blue print the Remington action. By the time you square the action, true the barrel tenon threads, square the lugs, square the bolt lugs, square the bolt face, install a side bolt stop, install either a Sako or M16 extractor and install a firing pin bushing in the bolt face you are spending about the same as a custom action and adding additional time into the rifle build.

All that being said, a blue printed Remington action still makes a for a great build. I have rifles built on both custom and Remington actions and they all shoot and function extremely well.

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#6736589 - 04/16/17 04:39 PM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Ritter]
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Who says one has to make all those modifications to a Rem 700 action at all?
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#6736597 - 04/16/17 04:47 PM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Brother in-law]
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Going on memory, back to an article in Kenny Jarrett and his 'beanfield rifles', he said that there were certain 700 actions, mostly later production, that he would not build a rifle with because they couldn't be made to meet his stringent accuracy guarantees. He even gave the prefix info on what he would accept, and he went on to say that he finally just gave up and developed his own actions in order to meet extreme accuracy demands.

That surely made me think that not just any old 700 action was worth the effort. That said, I am no gunsmith.

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#6736754 - 04/16/17 07:59 PM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Brother in-law]
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If he going to use some sort of DBM or just regular bottom metal? ADL as the donor if he wants DBM. If he wants standard bottom metal you can often find cheap .243/.308 BDL/SPS variants for cheaper than buying a bare action.

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#6736831 - 04/16/17 08:54 PM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Who says one has to make all those modifications to a Rem 700 action at all?


I don't think I ever said you had to. That is just a fairly complete list of machining that can be done to a factory Remington action.
However, I wouldn't build a semi-custom rifle without doing all of that minus the bushing, extractor and side bolt release. I like having the barrel's bore centered in the action and 100% contact for the bolt lugs and barrel tenon threads.

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#6736898 - 04/16/17 09:48 PM Re: R700 actions as donors [Re: Ritter]
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Originally Posted By: Ritter
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Who says one has to make all those modifications to a Rem 700 action at all?


I don't think I ever said you had to. That is just a fairly complete list of machining that can be done to a factory Remington action.
However, I wouldn't build a semi-custom rifle without doing all of that minus the bushing, extractor and side bolt release. I like having the barrel's bore centered in the action and 100% contact for the bolt lugs and barrel tenon threads.


I agree. Do it right, or don't do it at all.
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