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#6735335 - 04/14/17 07:11 PM Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV
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Iím thinking of buying a target 22LR pistol.
Iím leaning toward the S&W. It seems to be as accurate as the MkiV, seems to have a nice trigger and is reliable. The Mk IV is slightly easier to take down (the S&W isnít hard), but costs more.

Any thoughts?

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#6735509 - 04/14/17 10:39 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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Don't bother responding. It doesn't matter what you think because I just couldn't resist and ordered the SW Victory grin

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#6735771 - 04/15/17 11:55 AM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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you will be VERY happy


plus , if you get bored there are already a ton of goodies you can add on to it.
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#6736124 - 04/15/17 09:58 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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Have looked at the Victory very hard. Been a Ruger guy for three decades, but that S&W looks to be a fantastic rimfire.

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#6736370 - 04/16/17 10:11 AM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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I do like the new ruger with the rails.
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#6736620 - 04/16/17 05:47 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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I went with the Ruger Mark IV because it's also offered in the blue finish which I prefer over stainless steel.
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#6736623 - 04/16/17 05:53 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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I'm a Buckmark fan but the Victory does look good on paper. Be sure to keep us up to date on how it goes!
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#6741162 - 04/20/17 03:29 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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Picked it up today. I really like it so far.

Nice fit and finish
Trigger has a decent break below 4lbs (I used spent cases for dry firing)
The barrel seems to be a true match barrel. It's not as rough as a CZ and a Savage where you can see the tooling marks. The inside is more like a 22 Shilen barrel. I wonder if they have lapped it.

Hopefully I'll shoot it in a few days and report back.


Edited by Kevin1 (04/20/17 08:24 PM)

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#6741173 - 04/20/17 03:41 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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I like the fact you dry fire on a used hull, better yet order some of the plastic ones, Never dry fire a rimfire if the pin contacts the breech face upon firing.

I use them in all my .22's
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#6741188 - 04/20/17 03:59 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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Iím super careful about dry firing. I have a custom 22 that has a cone breech barrel that doesnít forgive any dry firing. But sometimes you canít help it and thatís why I have a chamber ironing tool I take with me just in case.
Iíve notice that modern rimfires (except cone breech) are more accommodating though.

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#6741247 - 04/20/17 05:02 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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Originally Posted By: Kevin1
I’m super careful about dry firing. I have a custom 22 that has a cone breech barrel that doesn’t forgive any dry firing. But sometimes you can’t help it and that’s why I have a chamber ironing tool I take with me just in case.
I’ve notice that modern rimfires (except cone breech) are more accommodating though.


your reply reminds me of my rim fire bench rest days
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#6742342 - 04/21/17 06:12 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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Took the gun to Bullet trap and shot at least 500 rounds.

The good:
The gun was reliable with all ammo I tested (Blaser, CCI, M22, Automatch, Minimag, AE22 and SK+).
I got one misfire with CCI and a few with the M22. Overall, Iím happy with the reliability.
The ejection was strong with a good pattern.
The gun is pretty accurate.
The below groups are from 25Y, with a red dot and using the cheesy rest you see in the pic. WellÖthe range is advertised for 25Y, but my rangefinder told me itís 23Y, and I trust my rangefinder more than the range advertisement. Right is Fed automatch and left is SK+
The trigger has some predictable creep and overall is nice. Itís not a match trigger tough.

The not so good:
Almost every time I used the slide stop on a new mag, my hand would push the safety on. If I wasnít careful, my thumb would also action the safety. This can be mitigated by training. Itís not a big deal, but is annoying.
After several hundred rounds, the gun was really dirty. I got a missefire with the M22, and the round woudnít eject. I had to use a small screwdriver to get it out. Next time, Iíll run a boresnake every couple of hundred rounds I think.
Iím in the process of cleaning the barrel and can see big chunks of lead inside the barrel and near the muzzle (I do have dedicated lead removal product, so Iím good)

Conclusion:
Iím very satisfied. I like the pistol a lot. Itís more accurate than I am. I put back the original sights to practice my pistol fundamentals.




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#6742363 - 04/21/17 06:58 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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Nice report.... up
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#6743193 - 04/22/17 06:19 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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Hereís a quick update.
I went back to Bullet Trap.
I shot a full box of 375 of CCI AR tactical ammo and 10 CCI mini mag.
Total rounds fired: 375+10=385 rounds
Malfunctions: ZERO!!! and with NO cleaning!
Accuracy: with the target, all the way to the back (23Y), with a 3moa red dot and the gun range rest, for 10 shot groups, I got 0.983Ē with CCI AR tactical and 1.276Ē with min mags. With a scope, Iím sure Iíll get even better accuracy.

Thatís it. Iím officially impressed by this gun!




Edited by Kevin1 (04/22/17 07:22 PM)

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#6743239 - 04/22/17 07:10 PM Re: Target 22 pistol: S&W Victory or Ruger Mk IV [Re: Kevin1]
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laser but keep it clean anyway
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